Tomlin has signed!

**jon1959** · 13-07-17, 13:15

There are brief interviews with Tomlin and Warnock on the club website (iFollow).

Warnock is interesting with his Adel Taarabt comparison. He clearly thinks he can get the best out of Tomlin (in a way that some of his previous managers didn't) but isn't hiding the fact that Tomlin has been 'up and down' in his career and needs to get his head right if he's going to be a success with us. This might be the one player in the squad that he doesn't fully trust - but will put the time and effort in because Tomlin has the X factor that many others don't. After reading the comments from Bristol fans - most saying he will start well then his attitude and fitness will go backwards - I think the main reason for cautious optimism is Warnock.

**the other bob wilson** · 13-07-17, 13:13

Warnock says Tomlin was his number one target and it looks like we were going to have to sign him on loan for a while. He also says that's the end of our signings this summer unless we have receive a bid we cannot turn down for one of our players and, on that score, it seems we've had a new and bigger bid for Sean Morrison from someone which was turned down.

The fee is reported as being up to £2.9 million in the Bristol media

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40592080

**bluethrough** · 13-07-17, 13:18

Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Warnock says Tomlin was his number one target and it looks like we were going to have to sign him on loan for a while. He also says that's the end of our signings this summer unless we have receive a bid we cannot turn down for one of our players and, on that score, it seems we've had a new and bigger bid for Sean Morrison from someone which was turned down.

The fee is reported as being up to £2.9 million in the Bristol media

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40592080

If thats the last expected signing maybe that opens the door again for Saadi

**the other bob wilson** · 13-07-17, 13:30

Originally Posted by bluethrough

If thats the last expected signing maybe that opens the door again for Saadi

Presumably we're still looking to sign one or both of the Livingston lads if they do well in their trial period? As for Saadi, I'd like to think he'd be given the chance to impress in the warm up games, but my guess is that he'll be playing somewhere else on loan in the new season.

**life on mars** · 13-07-17, 13:45

Where will he sit in the pantheon's of our great midfielders :

Peter King
Brian Harris
Alan Campbell
Willie Carlin
Graham Kavanagh
Stephen McPhail
Barrie Hole
Jason Koumas
Peter Whittingham
Junichi Inamoto
Gary Paul O'Neil
Gunnerson

**Vindec** · 13-07-17, 13:57

Originally Posted by life on mars

Where will he sit in the pantheon's of our great midfielders :

Peter King
Brian Harris
Alan Campbell
Willie Carlin
Graham Kavanagh
Stephen McPhail
Barrie Hole
Jason Koumas
Peter Whittingham
Junichi Inamoto
Gary Paul O'Neil
Gunnerson

What! No mention of Ian Gibson - the greatest of the midfielders I have seen in nearly 60 years of following CCFC.

**BlueWales** · 13-07-17, 15:39

Originally Posted by life on mars

Where will he sit in the pantheon's of our great midfielders :

Peter King
Brian Harris
Alan Campbell
Willie Carlin
Graham Kavanagh
Stephen McPhail
Barrie Hole
Jason Koumas
Peter Whittingham
Junichi Inamoto
Gary Paul O'Neil
Gunnerson

Brian Harris was a centre back.

**Llanedeyrnblue** · 13-07-17, 17:31

Originally Posted by life on mars

Where will he sit in the pantheon's of our great midfielders :

Peter King
Brian Harris
Alan Campbell
Willie Carlin
Graham Kavanagh
Stephen McPhail
Barrie Hole
Jason Koumas
Peter Whittingham
Junichi Inamoto
Gary Paul O'Neil
Gunnerson

What about

John Buchannon
Willie Anderson
Gibson
Spider Sutton

**Nobody's Rep** · 13-07-17, 14:15

Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Warnock says Tomlin was his number one target and it looks like we were going to have to sign him on loan for a while. He also says that's the end of our signings this summer unless we have receive a bid we cannot turn down for one of our players and, on that score, it seems we've had a new and bigger bid for Sean Morrison from someone which was turned down.

The fee is reported as being up to £2.9 million in the Bristol media

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40592080

A couple of things strike me with this "final signing"

1. If we took Warnock out of the equation I am not sure there would be so much elation over the signing of Tomlin or any of the other signings really - that's not a criticism as I am more than happy we are shopping within the budget of a club who attracts 15k supporters at best.
2. The pressure is on Warnock to turn a trick on all signings due to budget
3. To spend what is nearly 1/2 of the overall budget on one player and that player being tomlin is a bit bizarre as I like Tomlin and have always been fairly impressed when he has played against us but not for 1/2 our available budget
4. Why has Warnock gone from saying he wanted another two/three players to now only one and that's it - I still think we are short up front to be honest - Saadi is an unknown, Ward is new and untested for us, Healy is injured and well Fred is Fred!!! That puts a lot of pressure in Zohore who is still relatively young in terms of experience?

Never mind as most people seem to say recently in Warnock we trust!!

**life on mars** · 13-07-17, 14:34

Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep

A couple of things strike me with this "final signing"

1. If we took Warnock out of the equation I am not sure there would be so much elation over the signing of Tomlin or any of the other signings really - that's not a criticism as I am more than happy we are shopping within the budget of a club who attracts 15k supporters at best.
2. The pressure is on Warnock to turn a trick on all signings due to budget
3. To spend what is nearly 1/2 of the overall budget on one player and that player being tomlin is a bit bizarre as I like Tomlin and have always been fairly impressed when he has played against us but not for 1/2 our available budget
4. Why has Warnock gone from saying he wanted another two/three players to now only one and that's it - I still think we are short up front to be honest - Saadi is an unknown, Ward is new and untested for us, Healy is injured and well Fred is Fred!!! That puts a lot of pressure in Zohore who is still relatively young in terms of experience?

Never mind as most people seem to say recently in Warnock we trust!!

A you say budget ,and I would add in FFP , and plan B .

I think he got part of the budget for signings and part to keep others such as Manga and Gunnerson ,and ?? .

Your not going to get much for 2.9 million anyway , so why not take a punt on a known entity in this league after failing on the two Scottish lads ,who may well flop .

This puts pressure on Warnock ,not Zohore.

Warnock is a proven experienced football man , a motivator, no fool or naive , so its not a case of in Warnock we trust its in Warnock what we know, surly ? one could argue he's streets ahead of our recent batch of managers .

What if the budget spend is 2 fold now and in January when we need a push ,keeping something for another day is something I would do ?

What if we now see season long loan moves in ?

I do know we won't go down ,we play in blue ,we are funded to an extent ,under FFP , the owner has kept faith , the mangers has enthusiasm, and I get to go down and support the team I love .

Happy days

**chepstow** · 13-07-17, 14:51

Signed yesterday straight on a diet today

**ccfc_is_my_life** · 13-07-17, 15:08

Originally Posted by chepstow

Signed yesterday straight on a diet today

That Matt Le Tissier was pretty crap what with his build...

**Packerman** · 13-07-17, 15:30

Originally Posted by chepstow

Signed yesterday straight on a diet today

are you EVER positive???

**DubaiDai** · 13-07-17, 21:27

Originally Posted by chepstow

Signed yesterday straight on a diet today

I suppose we must be a basket case club ?

**Nobody's Rep** · 13-07-17, 16:31

Originally Posted by life on mars

A you say budget ,and I would add in FFP , and plan B .

I think he got part of the budget for signings and part to keep others such as Manga and Gunnerson ,and ?? .

Your not going to get much for 2.9 million anyway , so why not take a punt on a known entity in this league after failing on the two Scottish lads ,who may well flop .

This puts pressure on Warnock ,not Zohore.

Warnock is a proven experienced football man , a motivator, no fool or naive , so its not a case of in Warnock we trust its in Warnock what we know, surly ? one could argue he's streets ahead of our recent batch of managers .

What if the budget spend is 2 fold now and in January when we need a push ,keeping something for another day is something I would do ?

What if we now see season long loan moves in ?

I do know we won't go down ,we play in blue ,we are funded to an extent ,under FFP , the owner has kept faith , the mangers has enthusiasm, and I get to go down and support the team I love .

Happy days

That last bit is the key for me - I am with you - within budget, in blue and it a bit of pashun around the place!!

**Rock_Flock_of_Five** · 13-07-17, 14:59

Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep

A couple of things strike me with this "final signing"

1. If we took Warnock out of the equation I am not sure there would be so much elation over the signing of Tomlin or any of the other signings really - that's not a criticism as I am more than happy we are shopping within the budget of a club who attracts 15k supporters at best.
2. The pressure is on Warnock to turn a trick on all signings due to budget
3. To spend what is nearly 1/2 of the overall budget on one player and that player being tomlin is a bit bizarre as I like Tomlin and have always been fairly impressed when he has played against us but not for 1/2 our available budget
4. Why has Warnock gone from saying he wanted another two/three players to now only one and that's it - I still think we are short up front to be honest - Saadi is an unknown, Ward is new and untested for us, Healy is injured and well Fred is Fred!!! That puts a lot of pressure in Zohore who is still relatively young in terms of experience?

Never mind as most people seem to say recently in Warnock we trust!!

How could a new signing possibly be tested by us (unless previously on loan)? Besides, Ward IS tested in the Championship - it's not like we're taking some wild punt on a league 1 or 2 player.

**the other bob wilson** · 13-07-17, 15:49

Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep

A couple of things strike me with this "final signing"

1. If we took Warnock out of the equation I am not sure there would be so much elation over the signing of Tomlin or any of the other signings really - that's not a criticism as I am more than happy we are shopping within the budget of a club who attracts 15k supporters at best.
2. The pressure is on Warnock to turn a trick on all signings due to budget
3. To spend what is nearly 1/2 of the overall budget on one player and that player being tomlin is a bit bizarre as I like Tomlin and have always been fairly impressed when he has played against us but not for 1/2 our available budget
4. Why has Warnock gone from saying he wanted another two/three players to now only one and that's it - I still think we are short up front to be honest - Saadi is an unknown, Ward is new and untested for us, Healy is injured and well Fred is Fred!!! That puts a lot of pressure in Zohore who is still relatively young in terms of experience?

Never mind as most people seem to say recently in Warnock we trust!!

Tomlin is a high profile signing by Warnock in Championship terms (he has brought big with not great results in the Premier League) but I keep going back to that QPR fan who said expect underwhelming signings that end up working from him. If the fee reported for Tomlin is right, we are paying about the same as the wurzels did for him last summer, but I think there has been some transfer market inflation in the last year and nearly three million pounds is quite cheap for someone with his ability.

With lower wages for Bruno, big earners like Whitts, LeFondre, Lambert, Amos and Huws gone, as well as Adeyemi, and no wages needed for McGregor any more, I'd say there's a chance that our wage bill is currently a bit lower than it was in the second half of last season. We also got a fee for Huws, so I think our budget is/was a bit bigger than the reported £6 million.

If Pilkington and Noone stay, I'd say we have plenty of competition for attacking places, but I think Tomlin's signing makes their departure more likely. I'm not sure what this latest outlay does to any plans we may have had of signing the two lads from Livingston, but the older one of the two, Mullen, is twenty two now and so I believe he would be bought by us with the intention of challenging for a place in the first team squad straight away - I would have thought he and Knox would cost a pretty modest combined fee which would be more than covered by Noone and Pilkington (not forgetting Declan John either) leaving.

So there may be more signings to come, but, anyway, Warnock's comment about wanting two or three more was made before we signed Damour.

**J R Hartley** · 13-07-17, 16:10

Weve got at least 2 options in every position now

GK Camp, Ethridge, Murphy

RB - Patterson, Peltier
LB - Bennet, Richards
CB - Morrison, Manga, Bamba, Conolly

CM - Gunnarson, Ralls, Damour, Halford,

AM / Wingers - Tomlin, Hoilett, K. Harris, Mendez Laing, Pilkington, M.Harris.

Forwards - Big Ken, Ward, Saadi, Healey,

Several players in all areas of the field can cover a number of positions.

Ive left out John, O Keefe, Noone, Kennedy and Fred as clearly they are not part of Warnocks plans. Obviousl if Pilkington and Saadi are moved on I think we would need to bring replacements in or those positions as they are a little threadbare.

Being picky id like someonelse in CM who can pass the ball but its quite a competetive squad.

**cardiff55** · 13-07-17, 16:14