No electric trains west of Cardiff

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

According to the Tory government, an electrified railway line (HS2), driven despite massive opposition through housing estates, open countryside and ecological habitats, is ESSENTIAL for the economic development of northern England.

According to Chris Grayling, transport minister, the people of south and west Wales are better off with diesels, and without all that tiresome fuss and bother of putting up steel gantries and wires along existing tracks.

According to a senior Tory on the Bridgend County Borough Council, electrification would be "nice" but not "essential".

So let's all be quite clear, the Tory view is that the north is an economic Power-house, while Wales is some sort of second class Sh*te-house.

You were once of the opinion that at no point in history was Wales being oppressed by the English.

[Heathblue]

According to the Tory government, an electrified railway line (HS2), driven despite massive opposition through housing estates, open countryside and ecological habitats, is ESSENTIAL for the economic development of northern England.

According to Chris Grayling, transport minister, the people of south and west Wales are better off with diesels, and without all that tiresome fuss and bother of putting up steel gantries and wires along existing tracks.

According to a senior Tory on the Bridgend County Borough Council, electrification would be "nice" but not "essential".

So let's all be quite clear, the Tory view is that the north is an economic Power-house, while Wales is some sort of second class Sh*te-house.

Once the train leaves Cardiff from London, there is usually about 3 paying passengers and a dog who complete the journey 30 miles west, from an economic point, the gov is right not to spend the dough. However, being told the eco environment is at critical level and that all cars in 30 years time require to be leccy, the gov doesn't know its arse from its elbow and is just making it up day day.

[Rjk]

Once the train leaves Cardiff from London, there is usually about 3 paying passengers and a dog who complete the journey 30 miles west, from an economic point, the gov is right not to spend the dough. However, being told the eco environment is at critical level and that all cars in 30 years time require to be leccy, the gov doesn't know its arse from its elbow and is just making it up day day.

All cars will be electric long before 30 years time.

[WJ99mobile]

And poor transport links will make it more and more that way, let alone further along the track again.

Eventually, if 'we' are not careful 'we all' may up living towards the centre of the country, with absolutely no feck given about the more 'remote' areas !
Except for occasional holidays, where the visitor might also note the fact that the places are run down and have no amenities, no surgeries, no hospitals, poor transport, abandoned areas and un-repaired roads, unmotivated locals dealing with demanding customers for 6 quid an hour for a few hours a week .. etc etc
And thus never go again! And warn others off. Thus compounding the issue.

It could happen. It already is beginning to.

That's the way of the world unfortunately. Many publications estimate that by 2050 70% of the worlds population will live in cities. With a burgeoning population it makes sense to concentrate amineities on where they can serve more people, more effiently, for a lower resource cost per head.

Should we pander to rural communities who for the most choose to live there without necessity or choose where we as a country can get more 'bang for our buck'