I just want to know what you're up to with Stella and if Matt has to preserve board decency!Originally Posted by J R Hartley
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I just want to know what you're up to with Stella and if Matt has to preserve board decency!
I was thinking the same earlier. This board needs more football chats so long may it continue.
How can posters have a "decent" discussion with people like Hartley when he abuses everyone after a few sherbets.
I always thought he had something mate. If you were to ask me before that Wolves game who would come good out of Zohore and Fred i would have said Fred.Cmon mate your not even kidding yourself
The game in Europe is very different to what it is here. I watch a bit of Ligue 2 and the hardest thing is projecting whether a player there could be the same under the intensity the game is played here.
My hope is that Fred will have looked at Zohore and thought "i want a bit of that".
I live in hope but i do think it's a possibility.
No Stella tonight I'm afraid. My chum Matty need not get involved.
For a football forum it's the one topic that's sadly lacking in quality
My reasoning is cos i only saw 20 minutes of Saadi and most of that he was injured.
I also think Saadi is the type of striker who plays in behind from the goals i have seem of him.
Fred seems far more apt bringing players into the game amd playing with his back to goal.
The way we play with pace oit wide relies on this and i think Zohore would be more than capable of playing the "little man" role if Warnock wanted to revert to 4-4-2.
Go away lad
What little I seen of him I thought he got bullied very easily for a guy of his size and didn't enjoy the physical nature of the English game.
Neither did Zohore mate.
I think if he scored that goal against Brum he may have settled better.
I thought he didn't react well when our crowd got on his back for not running about like Revell and you could see him go into his shell.
I'm hoping he will view Zohore as the blueprint of how to turn things arpund
Yep, we were all wrong on him, but I think he's got more attributes about him than Fred. He's faster and more powerful. I think with Zahore it was more down to being a bit lazy where as I think Fred tried his best it just weren't happening for him. A good striker will brush off the bad misses but they really seemed to shatter his confidence.
I'm not so sure mate. I watched Zohore a few times for the dvp and he looked incredibly raw and didn't have a clue how to link the play and like Saadi only looked a threat in behind.
The ball seemed tp stick more to Fred and he used it quite well. His problem was that he looked mentally fragile and i hope he can return with a bit more confidence.
Another I'll add is that when Fred was playing he was hardly surrounded with a team on the front foot. We didn't even look like creating chances under Trollope and he didn't have many starts under Warnock.
Yes that's a fair point on Trollope. The QPR home game where Caulker totally dominated Fred I don't think we got near their box, let alone create any chances, and he certainly didn't have any help from midfield.
You've obviously seen more than me but what's impressed me about Ken is not really his hold up play, but when he gets in front of his man, or the ball over the top, he's very powerful.
That goal he scored against Preston, and the recent goals / assists for Denmark, I just don't think Fred has that type of goal / play in his locker.
Neither do i mate. I don't think he can do what Zohore has done but i think Zohore could possibly be better than Bothroyd if he stays for another few seasons with us.
I do think Fred could be a better option than paying 2 million plus for a striker in a similar mould though and he could compliment Zohore.
I believe the injury Fred currently has may be a long term one which may have hindered his progress here. I hope he comes back hungry and proves us all wrong.
Prove us all wrong except you. You're the only one who's championed him from the start
What's happened to Otto mate? Ain't seen him on here for a while? Or has he changed username?
There's an interesting post-Plymouth interview with Warnock up on the club's iFollow site.
Talking about Saadi he said the club had turned down a couple of bids that didn't meet their valuation, then accepted the Strasbourg bid because it did. Described it as a good deal for Cardiff.
He also said that Saadi's family are all still in France and it suited everyone for him to take the 5 year contract on offer. Finally he said he was happy with Saadi this pre-season (although implied Saadi hadn't been integrated before). It seems he was fitting in this time around and made more welcome.
Finally he said that the deal emerged very quickly - after Monday this week. The implication was that this was an offer the club couldn't refuse but they hadn't actively been trying to offload. He said still no plans to bring anyone else in (despite Saadi leaving) and he would be happy to start the season with what he's got. Warnock has got the teeshirt, though, so that could all be guff for the media and his real plans and aspirations are something else!
Prove us all wrong except you. You're the only one who's championed him from the start
What's happened to Otto mate? Ain't seen him on here for a while? Or has he changed username?
I even kept faith with Zohore though i must admit i thought Gunnarsson was shot until Warnock took over.
I don't know mate. He disappeared from the Bluebirds forum overnight and he seems to have done the same here.
I think when the football posts die out he loses patience and does a runner.
I'm the same. Sometimes I'll post all day then I'll have a break!
Shame cos he's a top poster and always contributes with well thought put threads.
Maybe he's having a break til the season starts.
We must be the only club in Europe that only do deals that are undisclosed!
I assume we must have got at least a million if we had turned down bids already for him.
I do hope we reinvest the Saadi money as i still think we're now a maybe a striker and a midfielder short
This report says 4 year contract (and describe him as 'wantaway'):
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com...-idriss-saadi/
Official | RC Strasbourg complete signing of striker Idriss Saadi
Newly promoted RC Strasbourg have signed wantaway Cardiff striker Idriss Saadi until 2021.
The Algerian international transferred to the Bluebirds in 2015 after promising stints at Clermont and Saint-Etienne, yet he struggled to make an impact in the Championship. The 25-year-old managed just two first team appearances for the club and was shipped out on loan to Belgian outfit Kortrijk last season.
Saadi seemed pleased with his latest quest, “I am really happy to sign for such a great club. Strasbourg is part of the history of French football and for the first time in my career, I have the feeling of being part of a project that goes beyond the field. Everything is gathered here: the speech of the leaders seduced me, the coach knows me well, the city is beautiful, the public is passionate … I arrive with confidence but also with a lot of humility, ready to do my work Service of the collective and to give me 100%.”
A.R.
Well it’s pretty obvious he was made welcome here and was never really treated as he should have been, no wonder he like numerous others couldn’t wait to move on. Let’s hope things will now change and players that are brought in actually get a chance.
If we got a million for Saadi, then I'd say we made something like a 1,000 per cent profit on him - I'm only guessing, but I'd be surprised if we got that much for him.
Just saw the interview with Warnock after the Plymouth match which Jon refers to - I reckon he's covered everything our manager had to say about Saadi there and I also tend to agree with him about Warnock's "guff for the media"!
I'd love to know how much we got for him.
I can't help but think that if the fee was anything like £1 million then we've given them a bargain.
He's undoubtedly playing at a higher level than the players he's left behind (although there is a bigger spread of strengths in ligue 1, probably covering the premier league and entire championship in one league- if that makes sense).
Looking at the going rate for a striker in that league , even near the bottom that seems low.
Also looking at the going rate for players who have scored heavily in the Belgian league that seems low.
Also looking at the going rate for players who have scored a lot at ligue 2 level that seems low.
I think when he first came to us he was making his way back from injury, and that has influenced many people's opinions of him.
Personally I think that the writing was on the wall for him when we signed Ward, as I don't see both of them fitting into the squad - and Warnock clearly trusts Ward
I agree. Taking Famara Diédhiou as an example - his goalscoring record is pretty similar to Saadi's & Bristol City have just shelled out £5.3m for him. As I said earlier in the thread, if we accepted less than the £1.6m we paid out for Ward then I can't help feeling that we have lost out here.
I also hope that we have included a decent sell on clause as a good season with Strasbourg could easily result in Saadi's value increasing to £5m plus.
Well done NW for outing a player who don't want to be here. Mate
There is a clip on youtube "The integration of Idris Saadi which backs you up Bob.
It was filmed when he joined Kortrij last year and he mentions how much easier it is to visit his family when he is on mainland Europe.
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