Reply With Quote40 what?.Originally Posted by Rjk
What do the figures represent?.
How do you create the 40 figure?.
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In case anyone is interested (probably not) on the same scale the Danish league is scored as an average of 40.
So similar to French ligue 2. And closer to league one than championship.
What's the maximum you'd pay for a striker who has had one good season at that level?
40 what?.
What do the figures represent?.
How do you create the 40 figure?.
It's a calculation of my own devising, that takes into account things like wage budget, squad values and success of players transferring to higher leagues, averaged over a few seasons.40 what?.
What do the figures represent?.
How do you create the 40 figure?.
I've then normalised the scores and made the premier league, which came out as the strongest on average, equal to 100 and scored the others in relation to that.
If the Premier League is the strongest, I'd suggest there is a flaw.
I still can't work out what any of this is based on.
Fair points. Who were the other kids taken on, and where are they now?
He's explained it all above.
Wages, squad values, success of players transferring to other league etc. multiplied by a magic number that the voice in his head tells him on the third tuesday of the month.
I think it's the same system they use for top trumps.
Can't be arsed looking through it all but found this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ntaine_players
Some quality players, some poor players.
Strongest on average, some others are stronger at the top, but less competitive further down.
Ok, but all of this is arbitrary. A home grown player costs more than a foreign player. Premier league clubs offer the higher wages because they are richer. It doesn't consider performance in European competition (UEFA rank the French League 5th).
Fair play, you can make a very good 11 from that lot
In other words, it means very little.
I tried to include the European performance, but that only tells you anything about the top 2 or 3 clubs in a league, which are often huge outliers compared to the rest of the league, so it wasn't very helpful.
As it happens, my system also makes the French league the 5th strongest.
You talk absolute shit. I never said it was a guarantee of success at all you tit.
It does prove that he had the raw materials for success and let's be honest we're cardiff city not Barcelona.
Why don't you get your head out of your arde you bitter ****.
On the contrary, it means the same as every academy, youth setup et al - he does have raw talent.
Can have all the talent at a very young age, the best achieve their potential as they have their heads screwed on. Others fall by the wayside - thinking they've made it and are now Berty Big Bollocks; some recover their careers, others don't.
On balance, Damour seems to fit the category of someone with talent who fell by the wayside but has recognised his career has been damaged by his own attitude - which is encouraging that he can develop to his best under somebody like Warnock.
No guarantees, hence the low risk in terms of cost, wages but I'd always prefer someone who recognises their own historical failings and wants to correct that.
Well done on the insults.
That's where I am on Damour. Obviously he had something, he represented France at various levels. A few years ago, Bundesliga clubs were looking at him, as were Villa.
Cardiff is a massive step up.
Fair enough.
Was there a question? I know I asked a question directly to Bob and he couldn't be bothered to answer it.
Your childish trolling is pathetic
Just because someone has a different view to you, it doesn't mean they are trolling.
Your previous response said "I never said it was a guarantee of.success at all". I never said that you said that.
Essentially, you are outraged at something I didn't say and accuse me of trolling. It seems you are winding yourself up. That's my last post on this thread.
Thank feck for that
So, you're not going to clarify whether you watched your three Ligue 2 games a few years ago as you claimed in one post on here or last season as you said in another one?
As it seems to be troubling you so much, I'll say that you jumped to the conclusion I had traveled over to France to watch games, but I hadn't, I'd watched them on some TV channel about two or three seasons (they tended to be on Thursday or Friday nights if I remember rightly). Thinking back, I watched more than three (probably double that number), but I daresay you think they don't count because I wasn't there in the flesh watching them.
Similarly, I watched a few 2.Bundesliga matches when I had my subscription with BT Sports last season, but my opinion on both leagues with regard to this thread would not change whether I'd watched those matches or not and that is that there are a fairly large nucleus of players in them (and in many other European second tiers as well) who could come into the Championship and do a perfectly decent job. Damour has a good pedigree, admits his attitude was poor for a few years and is coming off what he calls the best season of his career so far, I'm not saying he definitely will be a success at Cardiff, but I think he has a chance of being one.
There IS a God.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/f...e-13400006.amp
You'd have thought WOL would have done an article like this during the week we signed him.
An article which could have had so much more detail but nevertheless far better than most of the shit written in there lately.
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