Has Cardiff ever been a 'big club'?

[Pedro de la Rosa]

I may be wrong here but wasn't that tier built for the European Super Cup and wasn't it partially funded by UEFA? I am sure that I read that somewhere and have always been a little confused by those who slag off Tan for building it,calling it his "folly".

Back to your estimates,I agree, that in the Championship 25,000 would be about right for bigger teams with the norm, for a match being around 17/18,000. Promotion challenging would raise that to 22/23,000 and then, of course, in the PL 25,000 would become the norm.

We sold out every week in the Prem, by in large, and that was with the cloud of the rebrand, albeit the novelty of finally being there had an effect. If we could get up this time, and stay up, I don't think 30k would be unrealistic. If we manage to establish ourselves, with the growing size of the city, who knows? But top 10 in the country is probably a stretch!

[Eric the Half a Bee]

But top 10 in the country is probably a stretch!

Only sustained success at the top level, a few cup wins here and there, occasional qualification for Europe etc would see us, or many other teams for that matter, become one of the top 10 most supported teams.