Homophobic chanting (HC) the new arrestable offence at football.

[James fox]

Who'd have thought a gay man who had a difficult upbringing and then was thrust into the limelight would have a few mental issues and make bad decisions.

Poor little lamb.
He killed himself rather than face a trial and Justice in Maryland.
Nothing more.
Nothing Less.

[Splott-light...]

We sang that at both Bradford and Oldham fans , ****ing shameful , no wonder we have hardly any Asian fans despite a large Asian population on the doorstep of Cardiff city stadium

All the Asians I know 'support' Arsenal

[ian gibson]

That gay fella 'H' out of the pop group Steps should get married to Mr C out of the Shamen, they would save £££s on personalised taps for their new home.

[Dublinblue]

Gareth Thomas's BBC documentary on homophobia in football https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RaBEdmU67Y convinced me that football is unique among major sports for its level of homophobia.

Also exposes the FA & other bodies as doing feck all to stamp it out.

Why are so many gay Championship players (statistically, there must be tons) living a lie by not coming out? Simple. Because they're scared of how we, the fans, would treat them. Football really needs a Gareth Thomas to come out & shame everyone involved in football into action.

[Dr Lecter]

Gareth Thomas's BBC documentary on homophobia in football https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RaBEdmU67Y convinced me that football is unique among major sports for its level of homophobia.

Also exposes the FA & other bodies as doing feck all to stamp it out.

Why are so many gay Championship players (statistically, there must be tons) living a lie by not coming out? Simple. Because they're scared of how we, the fans, would treat them. Football really needs a Gareth Thomas to come out & shame everyone involved in football into action.

Or maybe they just don't think it's anybody else's business?

Which it isn't.

I couldn't give a shit if a player is gay or straight and I don't really understand why anyone else feels the need to know the sexuality of a complete stranger.

[Croesy Blue]

Or maybe they just don't think it's anybody else's business?

Which it isn't.

I couldn't give a shit if a player is gay or straight and I don't really understand why anyone else feels the need to know the sexuality of a complete stranger.

It isn't that they want to announce it it is that they have to keep it secret in every single other part of their life. Can't sleep around without fear of it being leaked, can't get close enough to anyone to have a meaningful relationship without it getting found out, if they do can't go out with their partner wihtout the media being suspicious, can't go on holiday with their partner etc.

Having to keep such a huge part of your life secret from everyone must put a huge strain on everything.

[Feedback]

Both of your examples are clearly homophobic chants if it helps!

why? what if the song is aimed at (i) a female and (ii) a father and young daughter?

[Feedback]

In a similar way, we don't really believe that jacks feast on dead rats.

bollocks

[Feedback]

Reading that, it doesn't seem quite so difficult to work out what is and isn't acceptable in today's society.

is tickling now sexual assault?

[lardy]

is tickling now sexual assault?

Probably not to the extent that stealthily jizzing onto the back of a woman in a nightclub is.

[adz-a32]

All the Asians I know 'support' Arsenal

Exception here

[I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS]

With the news today that Leicester City fans have been arrested for HC at their recent home match with the Seagulls. Telegraph Sport bottom of page 5.

I am actually wondering what is allowed and what is not.

We all need a sense of humour surely.

With Racism we all know that Black is (properly used) okay but coloured and the N word are no longer acceptable EVER.

But HC is much harder to comprehend I think.
For example ...what about....

Does your boyfriend know you're here? HC?
We can see you holding hands? HC?

For me ... almost a pensioner ... the whole thing is becoming ridiculous.

Discuss. Without anything obviously homophobic.

I would think personally speaking mate
does your boyfriend know your here ?
and
We can see you holding hands ?
would be deemed banter much like the comments of
"sheep shagggers" we get There is nothing nasty hurtful or mean in any way
but that's irrelevant there is also a freedom of speech issue

the banning of words is a dangerous slide
most of us covered the book 1984 in high school
in fact that book is more relevant now than ever

https://youtu.be/rY5Ste5xRAA Christopher Hitchens puts it a lot more eloquently than I ever could

tbh nothing offends me
what happened to sticks and stones lol
being offended is just stupid and pointless but people love to complain about something

[adz-a32]

I would think personally speaking mate
does your boyfriend know your here ?
and
We can see you holding hands ?
would be deemed banter much like the comments of
"sheep shagggers" we get There is nothing nasty hurtful or mean in any way
but that's irrelevant there is also a freedom of speech issue

the banning of words is a dangerous slide
most of us covered the book 1984 in high school
in fact that book is more relevant now than ever

https://youtu.be/rY5Ste5xRAA Christopher Hitchens puts it a lot more eloquently than I ever could

tbh nothing offends me
what happened to sticks and stones lol
being offended is just stupid and pointless but people love to complain about something

Just like morons love to complain about having basic respect for others, which they moan is called 'political correctness'

[I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS]

Maybe gay players stay in the "closet" because they realise it's an utter f*cking irrelevance? Why should any footballer have to publicly reveal their sexuality?

Citing Fashanu - this was a guy who can hardly be held up as a semblance of a role model. Making up a story about an MP for money, killing himself when facing trial in Murica for having had sex with a minor.. wasn't a nice person.

I never knew that about about Fashanu mate
the way he is portrayed now is like hes some kind of squeaky clean role model
when in fact he was a scum bag his sexuality is irrelevant anyones sexuality is
if he was a straight man hed still be a scumbag

[I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS]

Just like morons love to complain about having basic respect for others, which they moan is called 'political correctness'

you will find respect has to be earned

[I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS]

Or maybe they just don't think it's anybody else's business?

Which it isn't.

I couldn't give a shit if a player is gay or straight and I don't really understand why anyone else feels the need to know the sexuality of a complete stranger.

in a nutshell

[I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS]

You will still hear racist abuse at Cardiff city games , we still have our fair share of arseholes , amazing really considering the Cosmopolitan nature of Cardiff as a city but it's there

to be honest mate since first going down the city in 1989 I have never been subjected to racist abuse ever
(we do have a lot of decent fans )
the only time I have been was away at Chelsea in our recent cup game there and that was from Chelsea "fans"
but its water off a ducks back and it does not bother me in the slightest

[Feedback]

It isn't that they want to announce it it is that they have to keep it secret in every single other part of their life. Can't sleep around without fear of it being leaked, can't get close enough to anyone to have a meaningful relationship without it getting found out, if they do can't go out with their partner wihtout the media being suspicious, can't go on holiday with their partner etc.

Having to keep such a huge part of your life secret from everyone must put a huge strain on everything.

I've managed that with the wife for years. It's easy.

[Feedback]

Probably not to the extent that stealthily jizzing onto the back of a woman in a nightclub is.

I'm not sure any stealth was involved at all

[Forest Green Bluebird]

With the news today that Leicester City fans have been arrested for HC at their recent home match with the Seagulls. Telegraph Sport bottom of page 5.

I am actually wondering what is allowed and what is not.

We all need a sense of humour surely.

With Racism we all know that Black is (properly used) okay but coloured and the N word are no longer acceptable EVER.

But HC is much harder to comprehend I think.
For example ...what about....

Does your boyfriend know you're here? HC?
We can see you holding hands? HC?

For me ... almost a pensioner ... the whole thing is becoming ridiculous.

Discuss. Without anything obviously homophobic.

About a month ago I was looking at an article referring to LBGT and homophobic chants at football fixtures.

The article went on to use the acronym LBGTQ ... and this led my mates to find out what the 'Q' stood for.

My first thought was 'Queer' ... and my mates said you can't say that in relation to the LBGT 'fraternity'.

Further 'googling' brought me to this site:

http://ok2bme.ca/resources/kids-teen...es-lgbtq-mean/

"Queer is an umbrella term for sexual and gender minorities that are not heterosexual or cisgender. Queer was originally used pejoratively against those with same-sex desires but, beginning in the late-1980s, queer scholars and activists began to reclaim the word."

Apparently the term 'Queer' is acceptable as is 'Questioning'.

[mike downtownabbey]

Lesbian Bi Gay Trans Queer.
And they've all been around for donkeys years i mean since we have records.
Men wore makeup and heels before women and even added a beauty spot wigs etc.

[Kitman]

why? what if the song is aimed at (i) a female and (ii) a father and young daughter?

But it isn't though is it

[Wales-Bales]

Start small and work your way up. It won't be long before it becomes a crime to hate Manchester United.

[Feedback]

Start small and work your way up. It won't be long before it becomes a crime to hate Manchester United.

Never in lower wenvoe

[adz-a32]

you will find respect has to be earned

By that logic, you don't have any of my respect