More crisis actors

[I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS]

Steve used to be the same but he pauses the news and points out dodgy looking things now, I'm with Doris on the Flat Earth stuff though massive psyop and weapon of mass distraction imo.

Steve got a point Mrs S when we have been fed BS like this

https://youtu.be/LmfVs3WaE9Y

and

https://youtu.be/jTWY14eyMFg

and things like Sandy hook
the list goes on and on
the news is all staged and I'm finding myself pausing the news and pointing things that don't make sense or just seem genuine
it don't half piss off Mrs PC

Nelson
Mine will say awww no not this conspiracy stuff again you think everything is a conspiracy but that vid and some others has given her some insight as well

[I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS]

Steve used to be the same but he pauses the news and points out dodgy looking things now, I'm with Doris on the Flat Earth stuff though massive psyop and weapon of mass distraction imo.

Steve got a point Mrs S when we have been fed BS like this

https://youtu.be/LmfVs3WaE9Y

and

https://youtu.be/jTWY14eyMFg

and things like Sandy hook
the list goes on and on
the news is all staged and I'm finding myself pausing the news and pointing things that don't make sense or just seem genuine
it don't half piss off Mrs PC

Nelson
Mine will say awww no not this conspiracy stuff again you think everything is a conspiracy but that vid and some others has given her some insight as well

[Mrs Steve R]

She's not in uniform in the pictures, she's wearing a white short sleeved top.

I vaguely remember seeing a photo of the newspaper cuttings but I don't know where it was, I think the worse thing was the reversal of the footage from the BBC, what is even more annoying is that despite issuing an apology claiming its action footage had been “inadvertently reversed” they still continue to peddle the same shit on the BBC Learning Zone for schools.

"BBC website’s reverse view of Orgreave"
http://www.bigissuenorth.com/news/20...w-of-orgreave/

I was catching up with the news on it last night, I didn't know about some of this..

"Exclusive: The links between South Yorkshire Police Hillsborough and Orgreave ‘cover-ups’ five years apart"
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/...part-1-7890633

Steve got a point Mrs S when we have been fed BS like this

https://youtu.be/LmfVs3WaE9Y

and

https://youtu.be/jTWY14eyMFg

and things like Sandy hook
the list goes on and on
the news is all staged and I'm finding myself pausing the news and pointing things that don't make sense or just seem genuine
it don't half piss off Mrs PC

Nelson
Mine will say awww no not this conspiracy stuff again you think everything is a conspiracy but that vid and some others has given her some insight as well

That CNN one is comical, I dread to think how many times they have done stuff like that.

[lardy]

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-cnns-fake-news-broadcasts-charles-jaco-and-the-fake-live-gulf-war-reports.t1140/

That CNN one is comical, I dread to think how many times they have done stuff like that.

From the comments section of youtube:

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-cn...reports.t1140/

Looks like the CNN broadcast was genuine.

[Mrs Steve R]

From the comments section of youtube:

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-cn...reports.t1140/

Looks like the CNN broadcast was genuine.

That's one good thing if that's the case, they still wouldn't be up there on my list of news sources though.

[Wales-Bales]

I googled for the broken arm picture but cant find it. Maybe they did go to the effort of faking a cast, removing it and then putting it back on wrongly for another occasion. It also seems plausible that one of the papers just reversed the image because it looked better on the page.

It's obviously a random fake cast from the props department. Do you honestly believe they would put a real cast on just to take a photo? How the hell is she going to cook the dinner?

[Wales-Bales]

Would be interesting to see them if you ever dig them out. I didn't necessarily mean it's the same image, but one of them may have been flipped. Just theorising. You might be able to tell if her badge is on the other side in one photo or something.

[lardy]

I've seen it happen a few times. Two newspapers using the same photo on the front page but they're reversed.

[lardy]

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-e...listic-context

"I once worked for a newspaper where the graphic designer flipped a photo of a golfer to look into the page as opposed to outside the page. Artistically, that makes sense. You don't want the people in the photos to be looking outside the page. The problem is, the flip made the golfer left handed, which he surely wasn't. An astute sports editor caught it before going to print."

[lardy]

It's obviously a random fake cast from the props department. Do you honestly believe they would put a real cast on just to take a photo? How the hell is she going to cook the dinner?

So you've found the photo? Please share.

[Wales-Bales]

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-e...listic-context

"I once worked for a newspaper where the graphic designer flipped a photo of a golfer to look into the page as opposed to outside the page. Artistically, that makes sense. You don't want the people in the photos to be looking outside the page. The problem is, the flip made the golfer left handed, which he surely wasn't. An astute sports editor caught it before going to print."

Was it also fake news? It's about time you came clean, you are trying a bit too hard here

[Wales-Bales]

From the comments section of youtube:

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-cn...reports.t1140/

Looks like the CNN broadcast was genuine.

It's not debunked until the Snopes lady sings

[Wales-Bales]

So you've found the photo? Please share.

Do you think they use real casts in drama productions?

[lardy]

Do you think they use real casts in drama productions?

No I don't. Was that your answer to "you've found the photo"?

I haven't seen it and am keeping an open mind until I do. It appears you haven't seen it but have already made your decision.

[I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS]

I vaguely remember seeing a photo of the newspaper cuttings but I don't know where it was, I think the worse thing was the reversal of the footage from the BBC, what is even more annoying is that despite issuing an apology claiming its action footage had been “inadvertently reversed” they still continue to peddle the same shit on the BBC Learning Zone for schools.

"BBC website’s reverse view of Orgreave"
http://www.bigissuenorth.com/news/20...w-of-orgreave/

I was catching up with the news on it last night, I didn't know about some of this..

"Exclusive: The links between South Yorkshire Police Hillsborough and Orgreave ‘cover-ups’ five years apart"
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/...part-1-7890633


That CNN one is comical, I dread to think how many times they have done stuff like that.

it does make you wonder don't it
CNN FOX BBC well all of them really lol
they all push an agenda that don't sit comfy with me
same goes for
Alex "let me sell you some pills and push a religious agenda" Jones
2 sides of the same coin

[Wales-Bales]

No I don't. Was that your answer to "you've found the photo"?

I haven't seen it and am keeping an open mind until I do. It appears you haven't seen it but have already made your decision.

Just as with Hillsborough you have to look at the bigger picture. Things don't happen in isolation. You are either working from a script or you aren't.

[lardy]

Just as with Hillsborough you have to look at the bigger picture. Things don't happen in isolation. You are either working from a script or you aren't.

I'll take it as a "no I haven't seen it"

No further questions m'lud.

[Wales-Bales]

I'll take it as a "no I haven't seen it"

No further questions m'lud.

If they were working from a script then it's in the script. If they were not working from a script, then what you are saying may have some credence. Also in real life, plaster casts don't tend to miraculously shift from arm to arm. Bloopers only occur in controlled environments.

[Sgt. Pepper]

No I don't. Was that your answer to "you've found the photo"?

I haven't seen it and am keeping an open mind until I do. It appears you haven't seen it but have already made your decision.

In direct hypocrisy of his own regular prescriptive advice.

[Sgt. Pepper]

sickening Gibbo it really is mate
the Government
the gutter press
media
the impartial "cough cough" bbc
the old bill
they really did shaft the miners and their families and their communities too
and used the age old tool of propaganda and intimidation
I find that everything that comes from these bodies
is 99% is bull shite and not to be trusted

Everything is 99% shite eh?
Crikey .. who knew ...


Back to '84 - perhaps we could consider that much of the then Media were a willing pawn of the then Tory establishment, and some of the others were not so willing but went along with it.


The BBC are no better or worse then, nor now, than than many other news outlets, yet people single them out.
Obvious target perhaps. Big, popular, ubiquitous - The McDonalds of Mainstream news - and they have been caught out as being f*****g liars fairly regularly - no doubt.
Again like so many others. As Ian G also said.

FWIW ;) I tried to make a point earlier but got a swift brush off.
FWIW, I'll say it again.

The original post does indeed appear to illustrate ridiculous fakery.

But there is no suggestion that it has anything to do with the BBC (unless I am missing a point, or something else comes to light).

Within one post people are talking about the BBC.

By the next post and further within a handful of posts, the inference is that it is about the BBC - and people continue to drone on about the BBC.

And we are supposedly talking about distortion of truths?!

Feck the BBC, but 'sorry', but this is hypocrisy again.

[Wales-Bales]

In direct hypocrisy of his own regular prescriptive advice.

Ian Gibson stated he had the photos. Lardy refuses to believe that he could have been lied to by his MSM masters.

Just follow the rule of dots, it's not rocket science. We all have access to the same info.

[Sgt. Pepper]

Ian Gibson stated he had the photos. Lardy refuses to believe that he could have been lied to by his MSM masters.

Just follow the rule of dots, it's not rocket science. We all have access to the same info.

Or, just regularly miss/ignore the point, and inevitably talk in cliches .

[Mrs Steve R]

Everything is 99% shite eh?
Crikey .. who knew ...


Back to '84 - perhaps we could consider that much of the then Media were a willing pawn of the then Tory establishment, and some of the others were not so willing but went along with it.


The BBC are no better or worse then, nor now, than than many other news outlets, yet people single them out.
Obvious target perhaps. Big, popular, ubiquitous - The McDonalds of Mainstream news - and they have been caught out as being f*****g liars fairly regularly - no doubt.
Again like so many others. As Ian G also said.

FWIW ;) I tried to make a point earlier but got a swift brush off.
FWIW, I'll say it again.

The original post does indeed appear to illustrate ridiculous fakery.

But there is no suggestion that it has anything to do with the BBC (unless I am missing a point, or something else comes to light).

Within one post people are talking about the BBC.

By the next post and further within a handful of posts, the inference is that it is about the BBC - and people continue to drone on about the BBC.

And we are supposedly talking about distortion of truths?!

Feck the BBC, but 'sorry', but this is hypocrisy again.

Perhaps you have me on ignore but I did state that it was nothing to do with the BBC and explained my comment straight away.

[Sgt. Pepper]

Perhaps you have me on ignore but I did state that it was nothing to do with the BBC and explained my comment straight away.

I dont have anybody on ignore ;)

There is a distinct bias against the BBC among some on here, and I think that includes you, and I'm sure you have your reasons, and I may agree with fair few of them.
But that doesn't lead me to dismiss everything the BBC publish as 'lies'.

I dont think they are any worse than many/most other major Mainstream outlet that might be put under the microscope to the same degree.
Except most are not, but perhap should be.

It is as if the BBC cannot be mentioned at all now without a rapid chorus of guffaws!

[Wales-Bales]

Or, just regularly miss/ignore the point, and inevitably talk in cliches .

I don't think I need to spell everything out, a point in the right direction should be sufficient. A little independent thought never harmed anybody