Reply With QuoteYes. Weaker.Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
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As weak as your spelling?
Yes. Weaker.
Sorry, can you clarify? You're saying they are equivalent and then not equivalent in the space of two words. Succinct I suppose.
Weaker
Thank you, Polo. All opinions are of course welcome.
I fear we'll have to agree to disagree.
When ronaldo was injured at the end of the season, I think 15/16, bale was scoring the winning goal regularly. But Bale has been too hampered by injury though to do it consistently.
And ronaldo didn't even have a good tournament I don't think. Anonymous in first two games. Scored 2 in the third against Hungary I think. Went quiet again and pops up with a header against us in the semis, but didn't play well at all, goes off injured in the final 10 mins in.
Why people say he carried them is beyond me..he carried them in the qualifiers, but no more than bale did us!
Anyway back to the point that it's fine to compare them. It's fine because Bale tackled in our own box which isn't expected. They're both expected to attack and score goals, which obviously ronaldo is better at. If ronaldo put gloves on and went in goals it would be fine to say you wouldn't see bale doing that. Cos it's not expected.
Are you just arguing for the sake of it?
I was on about previously. asensio has just burst on the scene, haven't he. He does seem to be more effective than Bale for Madrid though, I agree.
Portugal win 1-0 away to Hungary to book at least a play off spot.
Ronaldo didn't score but he did assist so according to at least one person on this thread he won't be happy even though the team won.
No I'm not arguing for the sake of it. 24 hours on and I still don't see the need for Andrews to bring Ronaldo into the analysis last night?
He could have praised Bales work ethic without the dig at Ronaldo?
I just think to make a dig at Ronaldo is ignorant to everything else that he brings to the table, which is more than any other player in Europe.
Polo, you are not saving this board as per your imagination, you are sucking the life out of it.
Your anger, your lies, your negativity - you are killing this place.
Please go back to the other place.
No
And until Mike decides otherwise I will be sticking around to annoy you.
Another football thread ruined by going off topic
You amuse me, not annoy me.
But he's right in this thread he's just built a certain reputation as someone to have a good argument with. We all love bale but him and Ronaldo are world's apart anyway bale shouldn't be trackng back Gunter should be doing his job and bale should be doing his which is up the top end banging the goals in
Good point. Bale is so good that I think sometimes he tries to do everything, and some people seem happy to let him. The fact is, he'd probably be the best player in any position on the pitch for wales (except goalie and I'm not convinced he wouldn't be tbh) but we need him up front as you say. Sure he worked hard last night, but the creative spark didn't seem to be there for me.
Fair comment, good debate.
But do you really think he carried Portugal at the Euros? He scores two in one game and played well. He scored one in the semis but didn't do much else. He played for the mins in the final. He didn't play well in any other game.
How is that carrying?
Go and check the stats the only time bale as been anywhere near Ronaldo was in 13/14, Bale is a marvelous player but he'll always be in ronaldo's shadow at Madrid which is why I would prefer him to move to man utd
How much of that though is down to Ronaldo at Real? He certainly didn't seem happy Bale's signing, clattered him at training early on. Seemed to me that it was inevitable that Ronaldo was always going to be top dog regardless, especially amongst fans and media.
I'd agree with you on Bale going to Man Utd if that deal ever happened.
I didn't say Bale was in any way better than Ronaldo
Maybe my memory is going, about the only part of me that hasn't given up the ghost, but wasn't Bale bought by Real as they thought Ronaldo would be off that season?
No but you did say he carried Madrid (probably not the best term to use) in ronaldo's absence which must've been a handful of games because his app are a lot higher than bales since he's been there. I just think it was a daft thing to say by Andrews because for me bale was out of position and shouldn't be there you wouldn't catch Messi or Ronaldo in those areas of the pitch because they know where they need to be
Don't remember that tbh I thought it was real just being real and buying the best players around because they can
That's my recollection too.
Maybe he was seen as a long term rather than immediate replacement for Ronaldo but performance of both players in the 4 years since he signed, and the emergence of Asensio, would probably mean that's not going to.be the case now.
On reflection carrying isn't the right word in relation to the finals themselves but he has carried Portugal for years. He did score important goals in the finals though, his equaliser v Hungary, and the winner against us in the semis.
The point I think I'm trying to make is for all the players in Europe for Andrews to have a dig at when praising Bales performance for his country then Ronaldo is the wrong man!!!
His international record is unquestionable, and he's just captained his country to victory in a major tournament.
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