Reply With QuoteGood points. It's lovely having these problems though isn't it. Seems like the first time in ages.Originally Posted by Loramski
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Me too. If Warnock sees Peltier as a model right back then what's he going to do here? Three at the back is a possibility but that would seem unlikely while Mendez-Laing and Hoilett are playing so well. If he plays four at the back and tells Paterson to concentrate on his defensive duties then he may as well play Peltier. Big decision coming up.
Good points. It's lovely having these problems though isn't it. Seems like the first time in ages.
I've see Paterson play a fair bit at RB and RWB. I hope Neil keeps him in defence personally. He'll gives us real dynamism that haven't had on the right hand side. Think NML has the defensive skillset (he's played as wingback too?) and the workrate to allow Paterson to roam. From Paterson's perspective I think he has the potential to climb higher in the game if he sticks to fullback.
I agree but does Warnock want, or can he adapt to, dynamism at full back?
Hopefully he'll be too good to not play him there. I can't see him getting a shout at no.9 at any time soon. Coming on as a winger is probable sure.
Surely Neil bought him as a full back initially? He has recruited two players for every position to a very calculated degree this window gone (which I wish our previous managers had done). But it is possible he's seen things in training that have changed his thinking.
It might not be that Neil is so defense orientated with full backs but rather prioritises defense as an attribute. Given that Neil has been managing at the level we are at now, then any player who can defend to his standard and attack too is probably a valuable player pushing to play at a higher level. I'm trying to remember who he had at fullback at QPR?
Think it was Clint hill for one of them, who was definitely more interested in the defensive side of the game
They had Kyle Walker at QPR when Warnock was there.
I hadn't realised how long Warnock had been tracking Paterson. He certainly talked as though he's a player he can't wait to use when he signed him, seems to rate his character as well as his ability.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...rson-1-4469332
Pretty sure Hill played anchor man and CB?
Of course. As modern an attacking full back as the UK produces. Bodes well for Paterson at RB.
I seem to recall Onuoha doing well against us. Definitely a CB but have the feeling he might have been at full back against us under Neil.
Injuries and opportunities could dictate where Paterson gets his chance I suppose. I still think we're more thin on the ground squad wise with natural full backs than we are on the wing (or up front). Our full backs on the whole are all doing great for us this season though.
Paterson is a full back. He can play up top and wide, he even says he can do a job at centre back but he's a full back. Hill played left back in the 2-2 game though when they went up. Connolly was his centre back and nearly got sent off for handball but Bellamy scored anyway.
Clint Hill was the anchor man/cb and liuetenant. Was canny as feck. Scored the odd goal. Less of the legs and more of the know how. Long career because of it. Could play anywhere at the back as well.
Yeah, I've seen Paterson play at CB a few times. Looks very good there (against SPL opposition). Never seen him play as striker so I can't comment.
If that's the QPR game I'm thinking of, isn't that the one where Taraabt scored a worldie from a weird angle at the edge of the box? That decided the season that game. I'm still annoyed.
Jay scored a worldie, then Taraabt equalised when we didn't close the corner down soon enough. Bellamy then put us back in front and I think McNaughton or Keinan got caught in possesion on the half way line and Taraabt scored again.
Anyway, from what I've seen of Paterson, he's an absolute beast in the air. His hattrick in the u23s game was superb.
Will check out his hat-trick. Apparently it's just gone up on ifollow.
Forgot about Jay's goal. Reminiscent of Blakey Vs Citeh
Interesting post from over a year ago, before Paterson had made a first team appearance for us. This was the night he scored a hat-trick for the DVP team from right back.
I was looking for this thread to find the article I'd posted about the 17-year-old Paterson at Hearts in 2012. The second line of it is interesting as he's now followed the same path here.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...hearts-1338938
As Eric says in the other thread about Paterson, he's played other positions and I'm not sure why playing our top scorer in the Championship last season up front for now is that bizarre. He may well not be the long term answer there but in the kingdom of the blind the one-eyed man is king and all that. It's not like we've stuck Peltier up there.
Right now he appears to be the most effective no 9 at the club
He is a player who give 100% every game
Definitely. So did Revell though, it's an admirable quality but not enough in itself. For all the deserved praise he got for Saturday's performance, as soon as we draw a blank at home this board will be full of 'Paterson ran around like a headless chicken, we need some quality up front' type comments. It's interesting that Paterson went from full back to midfielder to striker at Hearts but the fact that he ended up back at full back again suggests that he didn't fulfil his early promise as a striker, we'll have to wait and see if history repeats itself here.
That's a really interesting observation. I'm guessing it happened because they bought a specialist striker in to play a different type fo game, and still wanted to accommodate Paterson somewhere. For our current style of play I think Paterson's strengths suit the CF role perfectly but could easily see how a different formation might be more of a challenge to him.
I'm probably alone in thinking that Paterson has far more to his game than just strength and speed. He showed some really good touches on Saturday, shows an amazing awareness of where his colleagues are around him, and more often than not is able to find them.
I'm looking forward to seeing how he gets on against van Dijk next week - it'll be brutal if nothing else...
There's a video of Paterson's hat trick on this link.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...-on-09-oct-17/
I think there might have been some resentment among a few City fans at least regarding Nathan Blake's comment about how other strikers at the club should be embarrassed by Paterson's selection in front of them. My interpretation of that comment was that it was not meant as a slight against Paterson in any way - look at many of the goals he scored last season and he does seem to have a knack for finding space in the penalty area. This may be easier to do when you are playing in a number ten type role, but I think there is enough evidence during the past year to say that Paterson does have some of the qualities you want in a good striker.
In the absence of Kenneth Zohore (who has weaknesses when it comes to the target man type striker we nearly always play with under this manager anyway) playing anywhere close to his potential, I'd say Paterson is the most effective player we have to fill that role - he's far more mobile than Madine, quicker than him, compares well with him in the air and, given there is nothing apart from a few pre season goals to judge him by in a City shirt, a better finisher than Madine appears to be. Ward, is not really a natural target man, but, at the moment, I reckon he'd be Paterson's biggest rival for the job if he was fit.
Neil Warnock went with Bobby Decordova-Reid as a lone striker at Bournemouth, but I can't remember City lining up without a target man striker in another game under this manager (Murphy would be a candidate as well if we ever did), so, if we assume that we are going to have a target man in 99% of our games under this manager, then Paterson seems the best bet for the role for now.
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