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Would it be offensive if he was white?
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Would it be offensive if he was white?
Nothing like getting on the booze, having a laugh with your mates, singing about the size of a man's penis
Racist.Originally Posted by LordKenwyne
Reported.
hitler, has only got one ball
the other is in the albert hall
etc etc...
Tbh the song is hilarious but I suppose they're saying any stereotype is bad. The statement by the Man United supporters club guy was pretty good I thought.
Any stereotype is bad?
How so?
If I was a black man and it was assumed that I had a massive nob then I'd say that's pretty good.
Would love to see Lukaku come out and say 'I like my song, don't find it offensive at all'.
Then all these ****s can get back in their box.
Then he proves all the racists wrong by whipping out the tiniest wang at the press conference
Then he drops the mic
Then he immediately retires from football
Then he breaks away from society
Then he begins a lifelong search for Atlantis in his 24 metre submarine
Then he finds Atlantis and he doesn't tell anybody
Then he transcends space and time and lives for ever in the unified field
Then he
I think they are saying any stereotype is bad because it is needlessly related to his race.
The point is you are not black so could feel a lot different about the whole thing.
If you're a black guy with an average size but shag a girl who's expecting a whopper and goes round telling everyone "oh my god he's tiny" then you might not like the stereotype so much.
But if I'm black then I'll have a whopper anyway.
And even if I've only got a tiny white man willy then my reputation will have got me my fair share of fanny.
It's a win win.
David Brent of The Office fame got into trouble in one episode for a black nob length joke. He conceded it was a stereotype but a positive one, therefore harmless and acceptable. That Man Utd song is similar. So many of those who are fond of throwing the R word around either cannot or will not judge remarks in context.
I mean the whole point of that scene was that Brent was in the wrong, "it's a compliment if anything".
I think the issue is the song is embedded in Lukaku's race and they are saying why does it have to come back to that? It doesn't matter if it is a positive stereotype.
I don't find it offensive but I suppose I'm not in a position to judge that being a white man with a 26 inch cock.
Very True.
Not a touch of Irony in sight.
Well Done.
It dates from a time when black people were commonly portrayed as being more bestial or animalistic than white people, and it often goes hand in hand with other negative stereotypes like aggression or intelligence.
There were (probably entirely unintentional) undertones of this in the summer with the Lukaku Vs Morata debate, with Lukaku being described as powerful and Morata as intelligent.
In a lot of cases black men probably don't mind this particular stereotype, but it originated from justification to treat black people as second class citizens.
Davinson Sanchez was recently described as a "destroyer" to compliment the technical ability of Toby Alderweireld, Vertongen and Dier.
It goes onto say, he's not actually made a tackle in his first two games but why let facts ruin some good, clean racism?
http://www.planetfootball.com/quick-...nsion-defence/
What about "destroyer" is racist.
Same way ugly british centre halfs have always been described similarly.
Laughable
white people looking to be offended for black people is big business nowadays
and dier is average, not ball winning. Vertongen is a attacking CB. Alderweireld as well.
It was only about 2 world cups ago commentators were calling the defence of any African team "niave" but the destroyer point does seem to be reaching quite a lot.
I don't think white people are looking to be offended for black people but I think we are just seeing more people who have had enough of racism that's been increasing with the rise of far right, populist politicians.
What is wrong with calling crap defences naive?. I watched the african cup of nations a few years ago and it was the definition of naive. No defending, with centre backs powering through the middle. Little organisation.
The world is a far less racist place than in the past.
Things like the adebayor song were bad, a writer trying to be descriptive? No chance.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...opean-football
It's actually spelled NAIVE
They've assumed he's a destroyer because he's black. They later say he's not made a tackle. Now, I don't know of many "destroyers" that don't tackle.
Clearances?.
A no nonsense defender?.
What about the word "destroyer" is racist?. Are black people known for being destroyers?.
perhaps they thought he was a type 45
Have they though?
Maybe they've made that assumption on what they've seen or heard of him? Or maybe because he looks like enforcer type? (Apologies if I've made a racist assumption there)
If what you're saying is true then all new black players will be labelled in this way won't they?
I haven't heard the assumption made about Mohammed Salah, Lacazette, Rudiger, Bernardo Silva, Mendy, Tammy Abraham etc.
Getting back to the original point, some fans have made a song about their new hero. It's a bit cheeky, they're trying to be funny but once again, people are expected to refrain because somebody somewhere has deemed it offensive - not Lukaku mind you, just someone being offended on his behalf.
It's part of a bigger picture, black players are very often talked about in terms of their physicality rather than intelligence, guile or elan, whereas the same disparity doesn't exist for white players.
Also think back to when Naby Keita looked likely to join Liverpool in the summer, a bunch of journalists scrabbling around for a comparison went for variously "the next Ngolo Kanye" or occasionally "the next Yaya Toure" , neither player being a particularly good match for the type of player Keita is. A white player who was a better match was never suggested.
That's not to say that the journalists involved were any more racist than anyone else in the country, but that all of us probably still carry some hangups from less enlightened times. We too readily consider black and white people to be stereotypically different, and the songs about Lukakus member perpetuate that.
I don't find it particularly offensive personally, but I can see where people are coming from
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