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Big 6 want more money, bugger the rest.
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Big 6 want more money, bugger the rest.
You seem surprised by this?Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
Not in the slightest, this is why the PL was born, apart from Man City, the other 5 and Everton wanted to collar all the tv money.
They best thing they could do would be to cut those top 6 clubs adrift, as they are the ones who are ruining football.
The remaining 14 clubs could join with the 24 Championship clubs, and the clubs from the two lower divisions to form a more competitive league structure.
Now that really would set the cat among the pigeons, but not chance in hell of it ever happening.
Why on earth would the other 14 want to get rid of the 6 clubs that are bringing in so much money for them?
I was thinking more about the fans rather than the greedy clubs. I mostly watch youth team matches these days, and they play some lovely one-touch football. So yeah, I'm all for going back to basics, and getting rid of the silly money that has ruined the game.
Sounds like you dont watch the club you say you support very much. What would be the point of City trying to get promoted to the Premier League if they werent going to play the likes of Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd etc. The whole point of the pyramid system is to give fans something to aspire to and improve competition. It would all become meaningless with no enjoyment or hope for the fans.
The top of the pyramid has become very distorted with the same teams making it into the Champions League every year. I for one view this as a huge negative.
Regarding the City, I was there during the dark days of a few thousand supporters, and I quite enjoyed having half of the Bob Bank all to myself! Like many, I found the turning red episode a rather unpleasant experience and discovered other things to do. I really enjoy the local football scene, watching out for the next Gareth Bale, but I may make a comeback to the CCS if they offer half-season tickets after Xmas!
Can I sit next to you?
Alternatively, let's see if the top 6 can survive without the rest of us. They need the cannon fodder to look good.
I'd be interested if the TV companies thought a league with only 6 teams was worth paying for.
I think they might bugger off one day under their own steam, and join up with the likes of Real Madrid, Juventus, Bayern Munich and Barcelona, etc. Then we can have the proper football back for our own enjoyment
Unfortunately if or when this happens the TV money will go with them and what's left of the EPL will get a fraction of the cash they do now. This will likely have a domino effect in that clubs with big debts (cough) will no longer be sustainable once the promised land is removed for them and this is when the bubble will truly burst on football and it implodes.I think they might bugger off one day under their own steam, and join up with the likes of Real Madrid, Juventus, Bayern Munich and Barcelona, etc. Then we can have the proper football back for our own enjoyment
Back to basics indeed :thunbup:
But which fans? More people than ever like top flight English football, that's why there's so much money available. It might not suit fans of smaller clubs like us, but for the majority of fans the current situation is absolutely fine.
It'll happen one day and probably sooner than we think. Teens and youngsters are used to playing PSG v Bayern and Real Madrid v Man Utd regularly on FIFA. You also mention fans like tradition but for today's youngsters, clubs like Sheffield Wednesday and Forest mean as much as Huddersfield and Preston when I was young.
If they left the big clubs would survive, but it wouldn't be a six team league, it would be continent wide and probably packaged up with EA Sports. But some cannon fodder would go to the wall. It would also accelerate the current trend of clubs like Chelsea hoovering up young talent, and maybe their contracts wouldn't allow them to come down to the minor leagues if there's been a breakaway under a different association.
All this isn't a defence of the current situation, I think it's terribly sad that I might not see another Leicester, I'm just being realistic. The non-big-6 have a huge amount to lose by voting out the big boys and it wouldn't turn the clock back 30 years.
It won't be long before teams negotiate their own tv rights away from the League.
Leeds would become the richest club in the world.
That has been mooted for a while now, and I believe was the reason for the PL
Surely you see there's only so much money available though and the European league would get the vast majority leaving the rest to pick up the scraps.
The top premier league fixture as it stands would be Everton V Southampton if the top 6 left, tough to sell to a UK market let alone an overseas market.
During the glory days of football, you had Match Of The Day highlights and a Saturday, and the Big Match on a Sunday. The only live televised game was the FA Cup Final once a year. Football was thriving back then
You've got all these TV channels now, and 99% of it is shit
I disagree. Personally I'm not the slightest bit interested in the Champions League. I think if those teams go then they're in danger of cutting off their life blood. Most fans want tradition and competition.
I may be wrong and a 'World Series' model might appeal but I think that if you remove the Domestic bragging rights - 10 times League Champioins, etc - then I'm not sure what the teams would exist for? Certainly the supporters couldn't afford to travel to away games on a regular basis just due to time if nothing else.
I've wanted them to **** off for years. I hope they go and take their entitlement with them.
And they can take all their plastics with them too, many of whom haven't been within 6,000 miles of any Big Six stadium
Sky's veiwing figures for live Premiership games last season were 14% down on the previous season. Last season was alledgedly the best in terms of quality [hmmm!] and this season it's even better with the players getting paid even more ! I have Sky, but I don't think I've sat down and watched a whole game yet, though as the nights draw in etc. that may change. But I'm close to cancelling, and may well decide to soon.
A lot of talk on our boards about how much 'we' hate Leeds, but for me, those showbiz clubs with their 24/7 narcissistic managers, players and pouting 'fans' are the ones I genuinely dislike..
Same here, I'll watch the Final if I can and maybe the odd game when it becomes a knock out tournament, but I can't remember the last time I sat down and watched a pre Christmas game all the way through in that competition. The old style European Cup, which really was for Champions, was a far better competition than the current version, but, money is the be all and end all these days and the "biggest" club's needs have to be catered for first and foremost, no matter how mediocre they are on the pitch.
Viewing figures for European football are at their lowest, that’s why sky dumped these games. Bt are not getting the viewers they anticipated.
Is that because not enough people are prepared to pay for an extra subscription for the European stuff? You can guarantee viewing figures would have been higher had it remained on Sky. BT obviously took a gamble that "fans" would pay extra for Champions/Europa League football, a rather misguided one at that by the sounds of it.
We'll see, sooner or later, it's inevitable
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