Greedy getting greedier

[lardy]

They best thing they could do would be to cut those top 6 clubs adrift, as they are the ones who are ruining football.

The remaining 14 clubs could join with the 24 Championship clubs, and the clubs from the two lower divisions to form a more competitive league structure.

Why on earth would the other 14 want to get rid of the 6 clubs that are bringing in so much money for them?

[Wales-Bales]

Why on earth would the other 14 want to get rid of the 6 clubs that are bringing in so much money for them?

I was thinking more about the fans rather than the greedy clubs. I mostly watch youth team matches these days, and they play some lovely one-touch football. So yeah, I'm all for going back to basics, and getting rid of the silly money that has ruined the game.

[dml1954]

I was thinking more about the fans rather than the greedy clubs. I mostly watch youth team matches these days, and they play some lovely one-touch football. So yeah, I'm all for going back to basics, and getting rid of the silly money that has ruined the game.

Sounds like you dont watch the club you say you support very much. What would be the point of City trying to get promoted to the Premier League if they werent going to play the likes of Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd etc. The whole point of the pyramid system is to give fans something to aspire to and improve competition. It would all become meaningless with no enjoyment or hope for the fans.

[Wales-Bales]

Sounds like you dont watch the club you say you support very much. What would be the point of City trying to get promoted to the Premier League if they werent going to play the likes of Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd etc. The whole point of the pyramid system is to give fans something to aspire to and improve competition. It would all become meaningless with no enjoyment or hope for the fans.

The top of the pyramid has become very distorted with the same teams making it into the Champions League every year. I for one view this as a huge negative.

Regarding the City, I was there during the dark days of a few thousand supporters, and I quite enjoyed having half of the Bob Bank all to myself! Like many, I found the turning red episode a rather unpleasant experience and discovered other things to do. I really enjoy the local football scene, watching out for the next Gareth Bale, but I may make a comeback to the CCS if they offer half-season tickets after Xmas!

Can I sit next to you?

[Penarth Blues]

Why on earth would the other 14 want to get rid of the 6 clubs that are bringing in so much money for them?

Alternatively, let's see if the top 6 can survive without the rest of us. They need the cannon fodder to look good.

I'd be interested if the TV companies thought a league with only 6 teams was worth paying for.

[Wales-Bales]

Alternatively, let's see if the top 6 can survive without the rest of us. They need the cannon fodder to look good.

I'd be interested if the TV companies thought a league with only 6 teams was worth paying for.

I think they might bugger off one day under their own steam, and join up with the likes of Real Madrid, Juventus, Bayern Munich and Barcelona, etc. Then we can have the proper football back for our own enjoyment

[Rhiw-Blue]

I think they might bugger off one day under their own steam, and join up with the likes of Real Madrid, Juventus, Bayern Munich and Barcelona, etc. Then we can have the proper football back for our own enjoyment

Unfortunately if or when this happens the TV money will go with them and what's left of the EPL will get a fraction of the cash they do now. This will likely have a domino effect in that clubs with big debts (cough) will no longer be sustainable once the promised land is removed for them and this is when the bubble will truly burst on football and it implodes.

Back to basics indeed :thunbup:

[Cleve van Leef]

Unfortunately if or when this happens the TV money will go with them and what's left of the EPL will get a fraction of the cash they do now. This will likely have a domino effect in that clubs with big debts (cough) will no longer be sustainable once the promised land is removed for them and this is when the bubble will truly burst on football and it implodes.

Back to basics indeed :thunbup:

I think people are becoming a little bit more selective, sky have had to break up their sports package, bt only took champions league and europa because sky didn’t think they were value for money. So it may help all the other Clubs long term.

[lardy]

I was thinking more about the fans rather than the greedy clubs. I mostly watch youth team matches these days, and they play some lovely one-touch football. So yeah, I'm all for going back to basics, and getting rid of the silly money that has ruined the game.

But which fans? More people than ever like top flight English football, that's why there's so much money available. It might not suit fans of smaller clubs like us, but for the majority of fans the current situation is absolutely fine.

Alternatively, let's see if the top 6 can survive without the rest of us. They need the cannon fodder to look good.

I'd be interested if the TV companies thought a league with only 6 teams was worth paying for.

It'll happen one day and probably sooner than we think. Teens and youngsters are used to playing PSG v Bayern and Real Madrid v Man Utd regularly on FIFA. You also mention fans like tradition but for today's youngsters, clubs like Sheffield Wednesday and Forest mean as much as Huddersfield and Preston when I was young.

If they left the big clubs would survive, but it wouldn't be a six team league, it would be continent wide and probably packaged up with EA Sports. But some cannon fodder would go to the wall. It would also accelerate the current trend of clubs like Chelsea hoovering up young talent, and maybe their contracts wouldn't allow them to come down to the minor leagues if there's been a breakaway under a different association.


All this isn't a defence of the current situation, I think it's terribly sad that I might not see another Leicester, I'm just being realistic. The non-big-6 have a huge amount to lose by voting out the big boys and it wouldn't turn the clock back 30 years.