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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    200 people injured with gunshot wounds must be a nightmare scenario for the hospitals there. Vegas isn't a massive city, maybe double the size of Cardiff. Having 200 people suddenly needing a hospital bed must be utterly chaotic
    They ran out of ambulances and they haven't got much idea on the number of people injured as many made their own way to hospitals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86 View Post
    The guy wasn't a Muslim? Not being treated as terrorism then?
    What a thing to say.
    50 dead and you are point scoring.
    You really are a sad individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    200 people injured with gunshot wounds must be a nightmare scenario for the hospitals there. Vegas isn't a massive city, maybe double the size of Cardiff. Having 200 people suddenly needing a hospital bed must be utterly chaotic
    Reporting 400 injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James fox View Post
    What a thing to say.
    50 dead and you are point scoring.
    You really are a sad individual.
    I'm not point scoring at all. Just stating a fact, and it's a dig at the media, no one else. It's very sad what's happened, and it's no less a tragedy whether it was terror or not. It's just something that sticks out from the media narrative to me.

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    The kind of gun it take's to do this (never mind the will) baffle's me no end. If you or anybody else can not only own one, purchase the required ammunition, check into a hotel, set up shop n start squeezing the trigger baffles me further. Military grade weapon's in the hand's of grade A lunatic's. The right to bear arms doesn't in any way mean it is right to do so.

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    "Mike McGarry, a 53-year-old financial adviser from Philadelphia, was at the concert when he heard hundreds of shots ring out.

    “It was crazy - I laid on top of the kids. They’re 20. I‘m 53. I lived a good life,” McGarry said. The back of his shirt bore footmarks, after people ran over him in the panicked crowd. "

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1C70FU

  8. #33

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    Anyone else find the response from trump really weird:

    My warmest condolences and sympathies to the victims and families of the terrible Las Vegas shooting. God bless you!

    A strange choice of words

  9. #34

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    Shocking numbers of gun deaths in the US. This is the year up until September, i.e. not including this incident.

    -11,572 gun deaths
    -23,365 gun injuries
    -271 mass shootings
    -1,508 unintentional shootings
    -2,971 kids/teens shot


    https://twitter.com/GunDeaths/status/914577120579465216


    Things that leap out to me are pretty much one mass shooting per day and that injuries are barely double that of deaths - meaning that you get shot and there's a cecent chance you're gonna die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordKenwyne View Post
    Anyone else find the response from trump really weird:

    My warmest condolences and sympathies to the victims and families of the terrible Las Vegas shooting. God bless you!

    A strange choice of words
    It sounds as if the Tweeter-in-Chief has confused himself again. I would have thought that 'deepest' condolences would be the trite but expected response. 'Warmest' works best with congratulations. Either way the tweets of Donald Trump are just an embarrassing irrelevance in the face of another tragic 'domestic' massacre. No doubt the NRA agenda will inform the Presidents eventual more considered statement on events in Las Vegas - and nothing will be done (again) to ban, restrict or even control accessible weapons of mass murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecity View Post
    The kind of gun it take's to do this (never mind the will) baffle's me no end. If you or anybody else can not only own one, purchase the required ammunition, check into a hotel, set up shop n start squeezing the trigger baffles me further. Military grade weapon's in the hand's of grade A lunatic's. The right to bear arms doesn't in any way mean it is right to do so.
    Nevada is a "Shall-carry" state i.e the the authority that grants the licence has no discretion, i.e any numpty can get one.
    There is no permit to purchase required
    No requirement to register the gun(s)
    You only need a concealed carry licence for a hand gun
    Open carry is permitted
    No assault weapon law
    No restriction on the size of the magazine
    It is not illegal to carry a gun into a casino, although the casino will probably ask you (nicely I'm guessing) to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    Nevada is a "Shall-carry" state i.e the the authority that grants the licence has no discretion, i.e any numpty can get one.
    There is no permit to purchase required
    No requirement to register the gun(s)
    You only need a concealed carry licence for a hand gun
    Open carry is permitted
    No assault weapon law
    No restriction on the size of the magazine
    It is not illegal to carry a gun into a casino, although the casino will probably ask you (nicely I'm guessing) to leave.
    Then this happen's. Ive only ever had my hands on a peg gun. The fact that he broke no laws up until he committed murder is the worst part of it. Am I right in thinking you only need a license to hide a weapon on yourself Th? Madness if so.

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    Rumours that the bloke and his mrs were involved in an altercation at the concert and she was heard to threaten to kill everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecity View Post
    Then this happen's. Ive only ever had my hands on a peg gun. The fact that he broke no laws up until he committed murder is the worst part of it. Am I right in thinking you only need a license to hide a weapon on yourself Th? Madness if so.
    Pretty much. It's called CCW - Concealed Carry. It's the ONLY licence you need and the issuing authority (in Nevada) basically HAVE to grant you one. Some other states at least check you're not a loony tune. It's harder to get a library ticket in our country.

    Most states are Concealed Carry only, so you won't see someone walking down fifth avenue with a cowboy holster, in Vegas, that guy could've wandered down the street holding an AK47 in front of him and the police wouldn't have been able to do a thing until he pointed it at someone or pulled the trigger.

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    ISIS claiming responsibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86 View Post
    The word terror has not been used once on the BBC.

    I know it's a 'done' argument but it's still true!
    To be fair they don't know a motive yet, it isn't automatically a terrorist event just because a lot of people have been killed there needs to be a political motivation.

    There are rumours this guy was a far left lunatic targeting a country music festival which has right leaning people attend which would mean it was a terrorist attack but it isn't cofirmed yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian gibson View Post
    Rumours that the bloke and his mrs were involved in an altercation at the concert and she was heard to threaten to kill everyone.
    Apparently he had 10 rifles in his room and it was premeditated, she was just telling people at the concert they were going to die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    To be fair they don't know a motive yet, it isn't automatically a terrorist event just because a lot of people have been killed there needs to be a political motivation.

    There are rumours this guy was a far left lunatic targeting a country music festival which has right leaning people attend which would mean it was a terrorist attack but it isn't cofirmed yet.
    Think that was the wrong man.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.1c3299877faa

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Ah ok, weird that people are so entrenched in their political views that they want to smear someone like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Ah ok, weird that people are so entrenched in their political views that they want to smear someone like that.
    It's staggering just how many nutters there are that don't care what ruin they cause to other people's lives. Added to the lack of gun control in the US, maybe it's surprising that there are not more shootings like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    Pretty much. It's called CCW - Concealed Carry. It's the ONLY licence you need and the issuing authority (in Nevada) basically HAVE to grant you one. Some other states at least check you're not a loony tune. It's harder to get a library ticket in our country.

    Most states are Concealed Carry only, so you won't see someone walking down fifth avenue with a cowboy holster, in Vegas, that guy could've wandered down the street holding an AK47 in front of him and the police wouldn't have been able to do a thing until he pointed it at someone or pulled the trigger.
    Thanks for the head's up mate. Its messed up. Really is. The Don has called for flag's to be flown at half mast, and put they're trust in the Lord. Maybe he should tackle the bullshit laws that you have described and they could then put a bit of trust in the folks that make them.

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    Shocking as this is I don't think it will worry the NRA or the rest of the idiots who
    support " the right to bear arms ".

    A seriously ferked up country.

    I've been to the States 6 or 7 times and I always feel slightly uncomfortable there
    because you never know which nutter will shoot you.

    Once we stopped at a services in the middle of nowhere and there was a wonderful big truck.

    I thought that would make a great picture of a great paint job in the great outdoors.

    Got my camera out but before I took any pics two guys ran up to me pushed and shoved me
    and threatened to " blow my ferking head off " if I took just one picture.

    Have a nice day I thought as I got back on our bus.

  23. #48

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    I have still not seen one argument from an American that makes me think "the right to bear arms" is anything but ridiculous.

    Their man argument is that it's in the constitution, which was written ages ago, what's wrong with updating laws?

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    They love throwing people in prison, it's a big business. Just think how many more they can lock up for possession of a firearm if they banned guns. No brainier for me..

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    Stephen Paddock brought an arsenal of weapons into the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas before opening fire on a crowd at a country music festival Sunday night, police said.
    “We are still going through the search warrant … but [he had] in excess of 10 rifles,” Joseph Lombardo, the sheriff of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, told reporters at a Monday morning press conference.

    10 ****ing rifles in a hotel..

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