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  1. #1

    Re: Farage

    Isn't it just farage doing what he's always done. Turning everything into a criticism of the EU whether it is actually to do with them or not?

  2. #2

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    The EU has no rights whatsoever to intervene in a member state

    http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-conte...elex:12012M007 - the EU article

    https://www.legalcheek.com/2017/10/f...=SocialWarfare


    What would have happened if the EU had commented on say the death of Ian Tomlinson and the police behaviour there, or Orgreave, or Hillsborough? Farage would have accused the EU of interfering and going beyond their legal powers. Now they haven't, he's criticising them for not going beyond their legal powers.

    This thread sums up Farage perfectly

    https://twitter.com/OliverNorgrove/s...72826012880896

  3. #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilw65 View Post
    The EU has no rights whatsoever to intervene in a member state

    http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-conte...elex:12012M007 - the EU article

    https://www.legalcheek.com/2017/10/f...=SocialWarfare


    What would have happened if the EU had commented on say the death of Ian Tomlinson and the police behaviour there, or Orgreave, or Hillsborough? Farage would have accused the EU of interfering and going beyond their legal powers. Now they haven't, he's criticising them for not going beyond their legal powers.

    This thread sums up Farage perfectly

    https://twitter.com/OliverNorgrove/s...72826012880896
    This is a very fair point. I think what the Spanish police did is awful but the responsibility lies with them. People seem to think the EU has more power and influence than it actually does. Someone on here was calling them the EU police, that's just not how it is.

  4. #4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Isn't it just farage doing what he's always done. Turning everything into a criticism of the EU whether it is actually to do with them or not?
    But this is everything to do with the EU.

    Farage is a cock but he's right in that the EU is crumbling.

  5. #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    But this is everything to do with the EU.

    Farage is a cock but he's right in that the EU is crumbling.
    The Catalans' beef is with Madrid and the rest of Spain, they'd feel the same whether Spain was in the EU or not.

  6. #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    The Catalans' beef is with Madrid and the rest of Spain, they'd feel the same whether Spain was in the EU or not.
    They would, but the reason for the eu's silence is because the last thing they want is countries breaking away.

  7. #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    They would, but the reason for the eu's silence is because the last thing they want is countries breaking away.
    No it isn't.

  8. #8

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    No it isn't.
    How do you know?

  9. #9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    How do you know?
    Because, as linked above, they can't and they don't. The rules the EU follows are decided by all the member states (don't worry TBG, I won't say countries) and they all shrewdly realised that they don't want all the other countries (whoops) poking their nose into internal disputes like this.

    It's for Spain to sort out and they're doing a bad job.

  10. #10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    They would, but the reason for the eu's silence is because the last thing they want is countries breaking away.
    If the Catalans did get independence then I'd bet my house that they would apply to join the EU as would Scotland.

    This is nothing like Brexit at all.

  11. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWales View Post
    If the Catalans did get independence then I'd bet my house that they would apply to join the EU as would Scotland.

    This is nothing like Brexit at all.
    Completely correct.

  12. #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWales View Post
    If the Catalans did get independence then I'd bet my house that they would apply to join the EU as would Scotland.

    This is nothing like Brexit at all.
    Not saying it's like Brexit, but instability is the last thing the EU needs right now.

  13. #13

    Re: Farage

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    Not saying it's like Brexit, but instability is the last thing the EU needs right now.
    It's the last thing they want you are right. They are presenting such a united front regarding brexit talks and everything else in the inbox. To look away and say it was not convenient politically is morally and utterly wrong. Why dont't they send some of their brexit A team of negotiators in? They havent exactly had their hands full dealing with Davies n co.

  14. #14

    Re: Farage

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    But this is everything to do with the EU.

    Farage is a cock but he's right in that the EU is crumbling.
    The EU is not crumbling. And this isn't everything to do with the EU. The actions in Spain have been widely criticized throughout Europe, but they aren't allowed to interfere in this sort of thing.

  15. #15

    Re: Farage

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    The EU is not crumbling. And this isn't everything to do with the EU. The actions in Spain have been widely criticized throughout Europe, but they aren't allowed to interfere in this sort of thing.
    Time will tell if the EU is crumbling I guess.

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