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    Shameful that there should be a food bank in this day and age. It confuses older people who think that they are back in the war years and contributing steel to the cannon shell effort

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    Those artifacts are probably worth quite a bit to collectors.

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    Meanwhile, down the shitty end of the M4.........

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...mself-13717488

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    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    Meanwhile, down the shitty end of the M4.........

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...mself-13717488
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ed-sex-1996027
    Good and bad in every city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    Meanwhile, down the shitty end of the M4.........

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...mself-13717488
    Says he was caught red handed. How long had he been spanking the monkey?

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    Man City gave you this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfried_Bony once he couldnt oust ol Crouchy or Diouf from the Stoke team. Enjoy for the next 2 years mate.

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    Good players in ours bad ones in yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecity View Post
    Good players in ours bad ones in yours.
    The end of the season will tell Joe,bit early to sound a fanfare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxim View Post
    The end of the season will tell Joe,bit early to sound a fanfare.
    Off topic Max I used to live in Swansea. St Thomas it was alright. Is the bookies still open n the paper shop/offy. Forget the name of the pub. It weren't too bad by the river.. The chippy by it was ropy no doubt you know the one I mean. No complaints apart from that.
    Last edited by joecity; 05-10-17 at 23:15. Reason: typos n lots of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecity View Post
    Off topic Max I used to live in Swansea. St Thomas it was alright. Is the bookies still open n the paper shop/offy. Forget the name of the pub. It weren't too bad by the river.. The chippy by it was ropy no doubt you know the one I mean. No complaints apart from that.
    I grew up on the eastside (Port tennant) Riverside chippy The Ship inn, Dockers club, i cant remember the name
    of the bozzer on Delhi street .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxim View Post
    I grew up on the eastside (Port tennant) Riverside chippy The Ship inn, Dockers club, i cant remember the name
    of the bozzer on Delhi street .
    The dockers mate. On the main road yeah? Good laughs to be had in there.

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    Completely correct. Let us see. I would wish you luck but you understand... Good stuff mate.

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    It’s the thought that counts and anything is better than nothing

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    Some nutter, somewhere, will pay "BIG BUCKS" for that, thus the charity ends up ££££££££££'s in pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    UK and France are roughly the same size of population 68 million ish
    Foodbanks introduced into the UK (circa 2001) 17 years AFTER they were introduced in France (circa 1984)
    France Foodbanks consume about 4 times the amount of food than UK foodbanks.

    In France they are seen as a sign of how caring the Govt / the people are in helping those less fortunate, socialist values etc
    In the UK they are seen as a sign of poverty, destitution and desperation.

    Has anyone ever had 'kidney' soup ?
    Just another political football to be used by those who are looking for a cheap shot rather than identifying a strategy that involves policies that would make a positive difference without destroying the economy.

    Personally I think things overall have improved dramatically since I was a kid.

    And probably very little of this is down to who was in charge but more down to relative stability over the period

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawnmower View Post
    Just another political football to be used by those who are looking for a cheap shot rather than identifying a strategy that involves policies that would make a positive difference without destroying the economy.

    Personally I think things overall have improved dramatically since I was a kid.

    And probably very little of this is down to who was in charge but more down to relative stability over the period
    A reality for some folk. The food banks. Take the politics away and you are still left with the shame of it. Not the shame of people who feed themselves from them because none should be attached plus 'respectable' working folk as it were use them. The shame that in the worlds 5/6th biggest economy it should be like this. I wouldn't think its making political capital for the sake of it to highlight a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecity View Post
    A reality for some folk. The food banks. Take the politics away and you are still left with the shame of it. Not the shame of people who feed themselves from them because none should be attached plus 'respectable' working folk as it were use them. The shame that in the worlds 5/6th biggest economy it should be like this. I wouldn't think its making political capital for the sake of it to highlight a problem.
    It is, because it's used to drive agendas.

    It's not a direct measure of poverty and in fact some of the main ones used , based on relative incomes are misleading too, as they are treated as difinitive measures and are actually just relative to what you also point out is a generally well off society.

    By using these bollox measures attention is taken away from the true drivers of poverty.

    Lack of ambition, mental illness, alcohol, drugs, crime, poor education standards , ridiculous house prices in some areas due to investment all being channeled into certain areas, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawnmower View Post
    It is, because it's used to drive agendas.

    It's not a direct measure of poverty and in fact some of the main ones used , based on relative incomes are misleading too, as they are treated as difinitive measures and are actually just relative to what you also point out is a generally well off society.

    By using these bollox measures attention is taken away from the true drivers of poverty.

    Lack of ambition, mental illness, alcohol, drugs, crime, poor education standards , ridiculous house prices in some areas due to investment all being channeled into certain areas, etc...
    Surely the majority of people using them are affected by one or more of the factors you mention though? If it gives it some air time in the press wouldn't that highlight these as well. I wouldn't think they are used just to satisfy hunger alone. You would wonder why? I would anyway. Highlighting each driver by itself of course is completely right. Food banks just sharpen the focus don't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecity View Post
    Surely the majority of people using them are affected by one or more of the factors you mention though? If it gives it some air time in the press wouldn't that highlight these as well. I wouldn't think they are used just to satisfy hunger alone. You would wonder why? I would anyway. Highlighting each driver by itself of course is completely right. Food banks just sharpen the focus don't they?
    I've no idea who uses them.
    Is there a check.

    Fact is the growth in them is not in itself an indication of growing poverty or inequality and people who use this as 'evidence' are deceiving us.

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    I can't see why else they would grow. I take the point about analyzing hard economic data. I will look into it more. Thanks mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I think, for me, helping the least fortunate in society should be a responsibility for everyone as part of a civilised society, a community, not just a responsibility for those who want to but shit on the shoe of those who don't want to. While there are plenty of very rich philanthropists, there are also plenty of very wealthy people who would rather hoard money/waste it frivolously etc than consider those in great need.
    I went to the bakery where I get my lunch from late a few weeks ago and they didn't have what I wanted there.
    The lady at the counter said 'it's OK I'll make you whatever you want'.
    'So what happens to this stuff that's left over' I asked

    'It all gets thrown out, piles of it every night'

    I chose something that was already there, but walked off feeling sick about all the waste.

    I'm sure they aren't the only ones.

    Surely something could be done by a charity to redistribute this ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawnmower View Post
    I went to the bakery where I get my lunch from late a few weeks ago and they didn't have what I wanted there.
    The lady at the counter said 'it's OK I'll make you whatever you want'.
    'So what happens to this stuff that's left over' I asked

    'It all gets thrown out, piles of it every night'

    I chose something that was already there, but walked off feeling sick about all the waste.

    I'm sure they aren't the only ones.

    Surely something could be done by a charity to redistribute this ?
    Think that a few big supermarkets are having a go at this. I'm pretty sure there was something going on in Brazil that got picked by the World Cup interest where by left over food was collected, cooked by trainee chef's supervised by some Pro ones and then served to people living on the streets.What a wonderful thing. Like Jamie Oliver but with out the massive profit. No diss cause he is trying to do something. Community efforts are massive. I don't think all the burden should be on the state at all. I don't think it ever really has been with the amount of care provided to ill and sick people within family's that could otherwise be dumped on the state. Family's get by don't they, best as they can. I don't think for a single second that everybody who could have claimed a benefit has, I just think the crew in charge we got now hasn't doesn't get the balance even half right.

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    Re: Generous people of Cardiff

    Quote Originally Posted by Lawnmower View Post
    I went to the bakery where I get my lunch from late a few weeks ago and they didn't have what I wanted there.
    The lady at the counter said 'it's OK I'll make you whatever you want'.
    'So what happens to this stuff that's left over' I asked

    'It all gets thrown out, piles of it every night'

    I chose something that was already there, but walked off feeling sick about all the waste.

    I'm sure they aren't the only ones.

    Surely something could be done by a charity to redistribute this ?
    I contacted a charity a few months back about collecting left over food from the Greggs shop my daughter worked in, she was throwing away bin bags full of food and then walking past all the homeless people on her way home from work, she would of happily taken all the food with her and shared it out but she was not allowed.
    They were meant to be opening a coffee shop ran by the homeless in Cardiff and arranging to collect food from their stores but I don't know if anything has come of it yet, he told me they have trouble getting regular reliable people to collect it all every day.

    My daughter is starting work in the new Tim Hortons soon which is opening right next door, they make everything to order and are very popular apparently so I have a feeling the left over food from her old place is going to go up even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    I contacted a charity a few months back about collecting left over food from the Greggs shop my daughter worked in, she was throwing away bin bags full of food and then walking past all the homeless people on her way home from work, she would of happily taken all the food with her and shared it out but she was not allowed.
    They were meant to be opening a coffee shop ran by the homeless in Cardiff and arranging to collect food from their stores but I don't know if anything has come of it yet, he told me they have trouble getting regular reliable people to collect it all every day.

    My daughter is starting work in the new Tim Hortons soon which is opening right next door, they make everything to order and are very popular apparently so I have a feeling the left over food from her old place is going to go up even more.
    They give free coffee to card holders in Waitrose. Should imagine the average customer can afford to buy one, usually a massive que of folk cup in hand waiting by the machine. They could have driven home and had 2 by the time the old guy at the front gets customer service to show him how to use it. Just seems like waste to me.

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