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Not yet seen anything (other than Eric's stuff on here) that gives a definitive description of what needs to happen fro teams to secure a play off place. Seems like it's too complicated for people to write for our group and Croatia/Ukraine
I think the only result that would make a draw ok for us is Croatia and Ukraine having low scoring draw
I think it's win or bust unless Serbia lose by 2
The nightmare scenario
Serbia Draw/lose
Croatia win/draw with 1 goal more than Wales score
Wales lead Ireland by a single goal until the last kick Ireland score
Goes from automatic qualification to being the 9th place 2nd team in that last kick.
(I think)
Horrible
Sorry :-S