If that was the plan then it has backfired, and, again if that was the plan, then serves him right.Originally Posted by LordKenwyne
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If that was the plan then it has backfired, and, again if that was the plan, then serves him right.
Hollywood has always been full of hypocracy.
Producers use casting couch, actresses use casting couch to get what they wanted. Scandals, coverups ahoy. Vast majority in Hollywood complain about the hounding of the great artist Polanski. Ok, so he drugged and raped a 13 yr old girl, fled abroad to avoid being sent to prison.
Gary Glitter reviled, lefty luvvies love Polanski for his great work...
Don’t forget Michael Jackson.
Paedos are ok as long as they can moonwalk and make cool videos.
Well, yeah, but Polanski is a better example from my perspective given him fleeing justice and having luvvies complaining about his "persecution".
Or maybe because they have never been convicted of any crime?
"Why does everyone believe Kevin Spacey’s accuser rather than Kevin Spacey himself? In a civilised society, it would be the other way round. In a civilised society we would doubt the accuser and maintain the innocence of the accused. But increasingly we do not live in a civilised society. As demonstrated by the hysteria of the Harvey Weinstein scandal and the increasingly strange and narcissistic #metoo contagion, we live in a society where accusation is now proof. Where accusation alone can colour someone’s reputation beyond repair. I fear we haven’t yet registered how worrying, and terrifying, this state of affairs is."
http://www.publish.spiked-online.com...innocent/20490
People often doubt the accuser, it's evident in this thread.Or maybe because they have never been convicted of any crime?
"Why does everyone believe Kevin Spacey’s accuser rather than Kevin Spacey himself? In a civilised society, it would be the other way round. In a civilised society we would doubt the accuser and maintain the innocence of the accused. But increasingly we do not live in a civilised society. As demonstrated by the hysteria of the Harvey Weinstein scandal and the increasingly strange and narcissistic #metoo contagion, we live in a society where accusation is now proof. Where accusation alone can colour someone’s reputation beyond repair. I fear we haven’t yet registered how worrying, and terrifying, this state of affairs is."
http://www.publish.spiked-online.com...innocent/20490
Kevin Spacey is probably the worst case to use this argument with as he doesn't even attempt to deny it; just shrugs and says maybe it happened, can't remember.
Maybe it was something to do with Bryan Singer's pool parties, or flying to remote islands with Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein on the Lolita Express? Or it could even be the photos that are floating around? Or as you say he could be innocent, but the word on the street is that a lot more is going to come out regarding him and others like him. As lardy said he hasn't denied it, which is what you would expect an innocent person to do.Or maybe because they have never been convicted of any crime?
"Why does everyone believe Kevin Spacey’s accuser rather than Kevin Spacey himself? In a civilised society, it would be the other way round. In a civilised society we would doubt the accuser and maintain the innocence of the accused. But increasingly we do not live in a civilised society. As demonstrated by the hysteria of the Harvey Weinstein scandal and the increasingly strange and narcissistic #metoo contagion, we live in a society where accusation is now proof. Where accusation alone can colour someone’s reputation beyond repair. I fear we haven’t yet registered how worrying, and terrifying, this state of affairs is."
http://www.publish.spiked-online.com...innocent/20490
OJ was found not guilty too.Or maybe because they have never been convicted of any crime?
"Why does everyone believe Kevin Spacey’s accuser rather than Kevin Spacey himself? In a civilised society, it would be the other way round. In a civilised society we would doubt the accuser and maintain the innocence of the accused. But increasingly we do not live in a civilised society. As demonstrated by the hysteria of the Harvey Weinstein scandal and the increasingly strange and narcissistic #metoo contagion, we live in a society where accusation is now proof. Where accusation alone can colour someone’s reputation beyond repair. I fear we haven’t yet registered how worrying, and terrifying, this state of affairs is."
http://www.publish.spiked-online.com...innocent/20490
Do you think Jackson wasn’t a paedophile?
Maybe he just liked having kids in his bed for company?
Well, OJ was found not guilty because his guilt wasn't proven.
When the lead detective on the case, asked if he fabricated evidence in this case took the 5th amendment to avoid incriminating himself... the case pretty much collapses, as it should do.
I just hope you are never accused of anything then, jetting around the world shagging all those models must be proof of something.
Does it matter what I think?
Lefty? -What the actual f*ck has a political standpoint got to do with it?
I know a lot of people who would call themselves 'left' leaning, as well as people who are resolutely centrist and also few who would gladly confirm that they dress to the right.
NOT ONE of any of them would condone paedophilia, nor any kind of abuse. You are a confused individual - get a grip.
So political standpoints have zero to do with personal views whatsoever... makes perfect sense. I'm also glad you and the people you know live in the Hollywood bubble too.
Can you think of an alternate reason for the love and defence of Polanski amongst the Hollywood set?
No, but I'm not going to label people of a particular political belief as abuse excusers.
I suspect the phrase you have used : 'Hollywood set' has played a big part in this up until now, at last perhaps, it has started to look at itself, and has begun to turn itself in.
Also, IMO, in these days of worldwide Social Media, it is much harder for someone to have an unsavoury past/present, just get away with incidents ignored like maybe has happened in the past. Word gets out and it gets shared, and the people involved become emboldened.
I think it's more a cultural change in wider society. I don't believe for one second Hollywood has naval gazed and magically become wonderful people. Like I said, Polanski is still revered.
Weinstein has apologised and vaguely hinted at things. He'd not been charged AFAIK and certainly not convicted of anything at this point in time. People seem more willing these days to accept claims as fact without evidence - at the end of the day, until proven they are still allegations.
I'd agree about social media - far easier for people to throw allegations about without having to prove them. They then spread like wildfire - even if pulled they are still out there.
What worries me about that is the numbers going to social media, going to media without reporting to the police.
Seth MacFarlane ITK?
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/30/en...cey/index.html
Spacey's "defence" is plain silly though.
"I don't remember it but apologies anyway I must have been drunk. Oh, did I forget to mention I'm gay? Please focus on the outing part rather than the alleged offence bit".
Who remembers this yarn?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ys-Spacey.html
I remember this one:
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...rs-122181.html
Wouldn’t it be refreshing if they just said “ok you got me, I was just looking for cock”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FafVtHWn4X8
Child abuse documentary Hollywood 'didn't want you to see' goes viral
The film An Open Secret died upon release in 2015, but is seeing a renewed interest online amid a cascade of allegations against Hollywood’s elite
https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...se-documentary
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"In light of the long awaited revelations of sexual abuse in Hollywood finally being reported ESPONDA PRODUCTIONS presents AN OPEN SECRET for free for a limited time . A film about the sexual abuse of children in the entertainment industry in Hollywood."
Link to film - https://vimeo.com/142444429
Jeez, once that snowball starts a rollin'...
How did some of these shmucks sleep at night, knowing how many lines they had crossed, and how many times?
Feck 'em.
Acting, like Politics often attracts a certain mindset perhaps.
The Hollywood entertainment industry is closely related to the politics of Washington DC, all we are missing is a Jimmy Savile type person(s) to pull it all together.
What about Arnold Schwarzenegger?
He’s done both.
And he’s a proper letch by all accounts.
The infamous Crazy Days & Nights blog got more crazy last night and mentioned the Island, and they have been ahead of the curve on this one.
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