Defeat better than a draw !

[Des Parrot]

Walking out of the stadium with a defeat we were all downcast but knew we were out.

With all of the pressure & emotion of the closing minutes, if we had equalised, the stadium would have gone mental, hopes raised and most people not realising we were already knocked out anyway as Croatia had won.

Personally, I'd rather take the 1st option rather than the 2nd, which would have an been horrendous high to low within a couple of minutes.

(Greece had already qualified as their last game was against bottom Gibralter & Slovakia had a better goal difference)

Just saying like!

[Feedback]

I don't think any of us thought a goal would have seen us through. we knew we needed to win

[Blooburd]

I don't think any of us thought a goal would have seen us through. we knew we needed to win

Coleman thought a draw was a enough. That's one person atleast

[Pearcey3]

Coleman thought a draw was a enough. That's one person atleast

He shouldn’t be manager if that’s what he thought. It was always very unlikely Ukraine v Georgia would end 0-0 with both of those teams needing a win.

[Baloo]

Walking out of the stadium with a defeat we were all downcast but knew we were out.

With all of the pressure & emotion of the closing minutes, if we had equalised, the stadium would have gone mental, hopes raised and most people not realising we were already knocked out anyway as Croatia had won.

Personally, I'd rather take the 1st option rather than the 2nd, which would have an been horrendous high to low within a couple of minutes.

(Greece had already qualified as their last game was against bottom Gibralter & Slovakia had a better goal difference)

Just saying like!

Agree. I've come to terms with it already. We were beaten in a match we had to win so didn't deserve it. If we'd have drawn and gone through the campaign undefeated, I'd still probably be weighing-up the what-ifs.

[Wales-Bales]

I'd have much preferred a draw. Would have eliminated the Irish, who in my mind, don't deserve a playoff place.

Great minds ...

I used to like Ireland and I always supported them in tournaments, but now I hate the feckers

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I'd have much preferred a draw. Would have eliminated the Irish, who in my mind, don't deserve a playoff place.

[Wales-Bales]

We would have stopped Ireland progressing though, and they really didn't deserve it, so I was actually hoping for an equaliser while the game was still in progress!

[Badly Ironed Shirt]

We would have stopped Ireland progressing though, and they really didn't deserve it, so I was actually hoping for an equaliser while the game was still in progress!

Me too, the last 10 minutes went from "a goal changes it" to the "nuclear option let's knock them out too".

[Louth]

I'd have much preferred a draw. Would have eliminated the Irish, who in my mind, don't deserve a playoff place.

Though we ended up with more points than you.

You can dislike our style and commitment all you like. At the end of the day, we did it.

I'll ask you a straight forward question. We are up against Wolves in a win all promotion game. Would you accept a win by all means performance?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Though we ended up with more points than you.

You can dislike our style and commitment all you like. At the end of the day, we did it.

I'll ask you a straight forward question. We are up against Wolves in a win all promotion game. Would you accept a win by all means performance?

You condone the Irish thuggery, then? That's all we need to know.

To answer your question, I'd happily accept a defensive performance and hope to pinch a win. I wouldn't accept Cardiff players intentionally elbowing, headbutting etc.

[Feedback]

You condone the Irish thuggery, then? That's all we need to know.

To answer your question, I'd happily accept a defensive performance and hope to pinch a win. I wouldn't accept Cardiff players intentionally elbowing, headbutting etc.

neither would I. if that's all they have to offer then they shouldn't be playing.

the Irish tactics were a result of them being an inferior team in all departments on the pitch. if they played defensively and won, then so be it. but it was the manner in which they played which left a poor taste in the mouth

[Louth]

You condone the Irish thuggery, then? That's all we need to know.

To answer your question, I'd happily accept a defensive performance and hope to pinch a win. I wouldn't accept Cardiff players intentionally elbowing, headbutting etc.

I don't accept it was thuggery at all. My question was hypothetical.
You could look at Ramsey's challenge (and resulting dive) and Allen's booking, if they were Irish you'd be screaming blue murder.

Allen's injury was accidental.

I haven't heard the Welsh camp complain. In fact Coleman pre game said 'it'll be like a derby' very tough.

Remember Seamus Coleman's broken leg? Taylor gets sent off and Roy Keane shakes his hand. In Dublin the game was very physical, it was expected and accepted.

[Eric Cartman]

I don't accept it was thuggery at all. My question was hypothetical.
You could look at Ramsey's challenge (and resulting dive) and Allen's booking, if they were Irish you'd be screaming blue murder.

Allen's injury was accidental.

I haven't heard the Welsh camp complain. In fact Coleman pre game said 'it'll be like a derby' very tough.

Remember Seamus Coleman's broken leg? Taylor gets sent off and Roy Keane shakes his hand. In Dublin the game was very physical, it was expected and accepted.

McClean seems to do a lot of these accidental things, poor lad must be very clumsy

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Allen's injury was accidental.

The fact you believe this says all I need to know. The way he got injured (bang on the head on the floor) might have been accidental, but there's absolutely no way that there was no intention to rough Allen up.

3 or 4 Irish players could have been booked in the first half for tackles that were as bad, if not worse, than the booking Allen received. The ironic cheers that greeted the late flurry of Irish yellow cards says everything. There were plenty of examples of Irish players being overly physical away from the eye of the referee, almost like Roy Keane was in his heyday - a dirty fecker who had a way of getting away with things. Maybe not against the laws of the game, but like another poster put it, the manner of the Irish performance leaves a bad taste. It was the only way Ireland could reduce Wales to their poor level. Trying to compare Ireland and Cardiff City shows your level of footballing knowledge.

Hope you don't qualify and I will be cheering on whoever you play. Get over it.

[nins27]

I've come to terms with it already, bring on Friday back to our club come on city

[Louth]

McClean seems to do a lot of these accidental things, poor lad must be very clumsy

What clumsy thing?
I'd have him at the city in a heartbeat

[Pedro de la Rosa]

What clumsy thing?
I'd have him at the city in a heartbeat

He's a bellend. I want him as far away from Cardiff as humanly possible. And that has absolutely nothing to do with his poppy stance.

[Louth]

He's a bellend. I want him as far away from Cardiff as humanly possible. And that has absolutely nothing to do with his poppy stance.

Poppy police alert

You do know he's from Derry yes?

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Poppy police alert

You do know he's from Derry yes?

I don't care about him not wearing a poppy, its his choice. I think he's a prick because he acts like a prick.

[TH63]

Poppy police alert

You do know he's from Derry yes?

So how come he doesn't play for N.I?

[Louth]

Because most of the Republican /Nationalist people wouldn't dream of playing for the North. They support and identify 100% Irish only. No British passport either. Irish people are Irish, unlike ......

[Dr Lecter]

Because most of the Republican /Nationalist people wouldn't dream of playing for the North. They support and identify 100% Irish only. No British passport either. Irish people are Irish, unlike ......

That ten years just flew by.

Look Pad, your team won. Congratulations. No need for you to be here anymore now though is there?

Enjoy the World Cup.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

That ten years just flew by.

Look Pad, your team won. Congratulations. No need for you to be here anymore now though is there?

Enjoy the World Cup.

They won't be there.

[Heathblue]

Walking out of the stadium with a defeat we were all downcast but knew we were out.

With all of the pressure & emotion of the closing minutes, if we had equalised, the stadium would have gone mental, hopes raised and most people not realising we were already knocked out anyway as Croatia had won.

Personally, I'd rather take the 1st option rather than the 2nd, which would have an been horrendous high to low within a couple of minutes.

(Greece had already qualified as their last game was against bottom Gibralter & Slovakia had a better goal difference)

Just saying like!

I said before the game and still think, it would have been better going into the game knowing that only a win by say 2 goals would have been good enough, Cookie went for a draw and it backfired.