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  1. #161

    Re: Who says girls can't play guitar ? Throwing muses

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    This. You can only get so far with practice. Some people are just natural.

    As for female musicians, most are seen as pretty first and musicians secondly. That’s the challenge of the new era of equality.
    Agree with your post entirely , I had a bass when I was younger but was useless

    And for all my joking aside women are treated very badly by the music industry


    I dont care what a woman playing in a band looks like , if she can play she gets my vote

  2. #162

    Re: World's best drummer

    An interviewer asked John "Is Ringo the best drummer in the world?" to which John replied "Ringo isn't even the best drummer in The Beatles".
    Ringo is very highly rated amongst drummers, but for me, no expert, it's Keith Moon.

  3. #163

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by elytillidie View Post
    An interviewer asked John "Is Ringo the best drummer in the world?" to which John replied "Ringo isn't even the best drummer in The Beatles".
    Ringo is very highly rated amongst drummers, but for me, no expert, it's Keith Moon.
    Yes Keith moon used to smash those drums

    Makes me laugh when people say oh the who ? They were just a bunch of mods........my arse they were , some of their stuff bordered on heavy rock well before their time that band was

    Stewart Copeland was a great drummer , the police were a superb three piece

    Dave grohl in his nirvana days was a superb drummer

  4. #164

    Re: World's best drummer

    Ian Paice

  5. #165

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Ian Paice
    Yes he was brilliant , his drumming on speed king and flight of the rat is immense

  6. #166

    Re: World's best drummer

    Nicko McBrain for me

  7. #167

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw View Post
    Nicko McBrain for me
    Never been a fan of iron maiden but he's a great drummer

  8. #168

    Re: World's best drummer

    Dave Lombardo slayer is superb , his sound on skeletons of society is brilliant

  9. #169

    Re: World's best drummer

    Agree with many mentioned, especially Neil Peart and Ian Paice but for me, the best is Stephen Perkins.

  10. #170

    Re: Who says girls can't play guitar ? Throwing muses

    Yes she (Tina s) has practised hard, 8 hours a day from the age of 6, she is 18 now.
    However she has a natural gift for the guitar.
    I don"t think that she has no feeling, that cover of Steve Vai"s for The Love Of God is full of emotion.
    If you are familiar with the original then you will know that her cover of it is different & she has indeed made the song her own.
    She is not just technically proficient, & if you listen to her covers of Gary Moore, Pink Floyd"s Dave Gilmour etc you will see that she is not just a "shredder" but has reel feel as well.
    Agreed all her you tube videos are covers but that is because she has a professional guitar tutor who has been getting her to cover more & more complex songs as she has got older, the above mentioned plus things from the likes of Yngwie Malmsteen, Jason Becker, Dragon Force etc.
    She has now started doing guitar covers of classical songs like Mozart, Beethoven etc.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6rBK0BqL2w
    She has not been allowed to pursue a career in music yet as her parents have wanted her to concentrate on her education for now.

  11. #171

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by El Horno View Post
    Agree with many mentioned, especially Neil Peart and Ian Paice but for me, the best is Stephen Perkins.
    From Jane's addiction ?

    He is superb as is navarro on guitar

  12. #172

    Re: World's best drummer

    Tool have a superb drummer , Danny Carey

  13. #173

    Re: World's best drummer

    Can’t believe Lars hasn’t been mentioned yet.......

  14. #174

    Re: World's best drummer

    I have to say, when I saw Rush live Neil Peart was even better than I thought he was, absolutely amazing!

    I also think Charlie Watts doesn't always get the credit he deserves, especially for the work that he does outside of the Stones.

  15. #175

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by neilw65 View Post
    I have to say, when I saw Rush live Neil Peart was even better than I thought he was, absolutely amazing!

    I also think Charlie Watts doesn't always get the credit he deserves, especially for the work that he does outside of the Stones.
    Peart is amazing but wish they would knock it on the head last good album they did was signals in 1982 , love permanent waves , moving pictures , farewell to kings hemispheres but recent stuff is crap

  16. #176

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Peart is amazing but wish they would knock it on the head last good album they did was signals in 1982 , love permanent waves , moving pictures , farewell to kings hemispheres but recent stuff is crap
    Agree pretty much with that Sludge, although I didn't mind Clockwork Angels. They were still superb live mind.

    Also just realised that Charlie Watts was ranked 12th greatest rock drummer of all time in Rolling Stone Magazine's 100 Greatest Drummers of All Time

  17. #177

    Re: World's best drummer

    Reni from the Stone Roses.
    Blondie's drummer Clem Burke.
    Keith Moon of course.
    Dave Grohl

  18. #178

    Re: World's best drummer

    In rock music, it has to be Ginger Baker for me, though nobody's mentioned Carl Palmer,

    But if we go into jazz, there's Buddy Rich..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhfdbon4728
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9esWG6A6g-k

    or Gene Krupa...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Umj2HOWcoE

    and the two "battle"...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-GoQWjH56k

  19. #179

    Re: World's best drummer

    I was just about to put forward Carl Palmer of ELP. I used to like Terry Williams of Man back in the 70s, but would probably plump for Ginger Baker.

  20. #180

    Re: Who says girls can't play guitar ? Throwing muses

    I know they're not playing, BUT, always loved this video:----





  21. #181

    Re: World's best drummer

    Honey for you Sludge

  22. #182

    Re: Info on south Wales gigs and tours by bands

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Nice one
    Yeah. They are just starting a month tour of the East Coast of the USA. Downloads available from the tour via the King Crimson website [DGM Live].

    StT.
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  23. #183

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    From Jane's addiction ?

    He is superb as is navarro on guitar
    That's him. Both superb musicians.

  24. #184

    Re: World's best drummer

    It's always the same names who pop up and they are some great drummers, but my favourites are Boris Williams, Topper Headon and Stephen Morris. Three superb drummers who hardly get a mention in these sort of threads.






  25. #185

    Re: World's best drummer

    Probably not the best by ability but the drumming by the Deftones is my favourite by a mile

  26. #186

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Yes he was brilliant , his drumming on speed king and flight of the rat is immense
    Ian Paice still is brilliant. Still going strong with Deep Purple at age 69. Even a heart problem last year hasn't slowed him down.

  27. #187

    Re: World's best drummer

    My Grandad was the best drummer who ever lived, despite only having biscuit tins for a drum kit and two rolling pins for sticks. Although he had a poor sense of timing and rhythm, he compensated with a heavy handed playing style and practised enthusiastically for 18 hours a day. My Nan didn't appreciate his skills, however, and after 50 years of pounding, she stabbed him in the throat in 1985.

  28. #188

    Re: World's best drummer

    Eric 'Stumpy Joe' Childs

  29. #189

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas View Post
    My Grandad was the best drummer who ever lived, despite only having biscuit tins for a drum kit and two rolling pins for sticks. Although he had a poor sense of timing and rhythm, he compensated with a heavy handed playing style and practised enthusiastically for 18 hours a day. My Nan didn't appreciate his skills, however, and after 50 years of pounding, she stabbed him in the throat in 1985.
    I don't believe he drummed for fifty years......

  30. #190

    Re: World's best drummer

    I wanna add (prolly controversially) that drum solos are the worst part of gigs, imo. Just time to get the drinks in again....

  31. #191

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    In rock music, it has to be Ginger Baker for me, though nobody's mentioned Carl Palmer,

    But if we go into jazz, there's Buddy Rich..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhfdbon4728
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9esWG6A6g-k

    or Gene Krupa...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Umj2HOWcoE

    and the two "battle"...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-GoQWjH56k
    Reminds me of the old joke :

    What do Ginger Baker and coffee have in common?
    They're both shit without Cream.

  32. #192

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve R View Post
    Reminds me of the old joke :
    What do Ginger Baker and coffee have in common?
    They're both shit without Cream.
    A correction, cocker:
    I'd see Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce every weekend when they were in the Graham Bond ORGANization. That was seriously good band. And Baker was brill - but don't let that get in the way of that ole chestnut.

  33. #193

    Re: World's best drummer

    Of modern bands Dom Howard for Muse is pretty good

  34. #194

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    A correction, cocker:
    I'd see Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce every weekend when they were in the Graham Bond ORGANization. That was seriously good band. And Baker was brill - but don't let that get in the way of that ole chestnut.
    I realise the joke is rubbish. If it was any good, I'd be passing it off as my own as I usually do.

    It's the usual gag about drummers being untalented and a bit thick.

  35. #195

    Re: World's best drummer

    I know nothing about the technical side of drumming but Terry Williams (ex-Man and ex-Dire Straits) was always impressive.

  36. #196

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I know nothing about the technical side of drumming but Terry Williams (ex-Man and ex-Dire Straits) was always impressive.
    Thought you was gonna mention the drummer wiv the Sunsets ....

  37. #197

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I know nothing about the technical side of drumming but Terry Williams (ex-Man and ex-Dire Straits) was always impressive.
    The drumming should fit the song, but quite often it doesn't.





    See? There's also a bit of swing in there, very punk!

  38. #198

    Re: World's best drummer

    Boris in action


  39. #199

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by cardiff55 View Post
    I was just about to put forward Carl Palmer of ELP. I used to like Terry Williams of Man back in the 70s, but would probably plump for Ginger Baker.
    I used to know Terry quite well, often going back to his house for late night jam sessions with touring musicians from his blues club, as well as a number of local musicians.

    For those that don't know, Terry used to be in Dire Straits and was the drummer on money for nothing. He was a well respected touring and session drummer.

    We were talking about influences and who he thought were great drummers.

    He stated Levon Helm (from The Band) and Mitch Mitchell (from The Jimi Hendrix Experience).

    Great shout from bobh, for Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich.

  40. #200

    Re: World's best drummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    Can’t believe Lars hasn’t been mentioned yet.......
    Apparently, Lars isn't rated by his fellow musicians.

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