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  1. #26

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by Since62 View Post
    It was indeed rather than any claim to be a World Championship.
    This is disputed on Wikepedia btw. The New York World newspaper went out of business in the 1930s.

  2. #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWales View Post
    Clarify ?
    I'll give you a clue. The answer is 12.

  3. #28

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWales View Post
    This is disputed on Wikepedia btw. The New York World newspaper went out of business in the 1930s.
    Just found the paragraph on wikipedia:

    "In his book Krakatoa: The Day the World Exploded: August 27, 1883, Simon Winchester mentions in passing that the World Series was named for the New York World newspaper,[6] but this view is disputed.[7]"


    How on earth is a book on Krakatoa the only source on this?

  4. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Just found the paragraph on wikipedia:

    "In his book Krakatoa: The Day the World Exploded: August 27, 1883, Simon Winchester mentions in passing that the World Series was named for the New York World newspaper,[6] but this view is disputed.[7]"


    How on earth is a book on Krakatoa the only source on this?
    Snopes is your friend:

    https://www.snopes.com/business/names/worldseries.asp

  5. #30

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWales View Post
    Why sing the anthem for a non international game anyway ?

    The arrogance of Yanks calling a domestic competition " The World Series " is stupid enough to start with.
    As a general rule Americans only give a shit about sports that they’re the best at/they’re the only ones who care about it.

    That’s why they love American football, basketball, baseball and shooting each other but don’t care about football rugby or cricket.

  6. #31

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    Canada here, but before Toronto FC matches most of the stadium joins in with the Canadian anthem. Since the team has been around (11 years now) the singer generally sings the first few words and turns it over to the crowd much like what happened in the recent Wales match.

    Personally, I hate the anthems before every event. We generally have to stand through the American one and then the Canadian one. It's more of a spectacle really usually with the Armed Forces/Air Force involved, hell it's been found out in recent years that they pay money to have these displays during the anthems, good recruitment I suppose which is why all this business with players protesting during the anthem caused such a big uproar.

  7. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    As a general rule Americans only give a shit about sports that they’re the best at/they’re the only ones who care about it.

    That’s why they love American football, basketball, baseball and shooting each other but don’t care about football rugby or cricket.
    The vast majority of countries around the world do not seriously engage in rugby and cricket!

  8. #33

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    As a general rule Americans only give a shit about sports that they’re the best at/they’re the only ones who care about it.

    That’s why they love American football, basketball, baseball and shooting each other but don’t care about football rugby or cricket.
    Worked in the USA quite a bit, used to slag their sports off big time, occasionally one of them would reply with cricket which usually shut me up. Hard to defend. They've got to have plenty of scoring, couldn't comprehend how a football game could end 0-0 and still be entertaining.

  9. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by elytillidie View Post
    Worked in the USA quite a bit, used to slag their sports off big time, occasionally one of them would reply with cricket which usually shut me up. Hard to defend. They've got to have plenty of scoring, couldn't comprehend how a football game could end 0-0 and still be entertaining.
    I get your point, incredibly frustrating how people with no knowledge of the sport (football) just dismiss it over here. However, in all fairness about 70,000 people just watched a 0-0 match between Atlanta and Columbus in MLS playoffs that was one of the more exciting matches I have seen in quite some time. It's slowly catching on in the right markets considering MLS itself is only 20+ years old.

    In Canada curling sometimes outdraws most sports in terms of television viewership.. strange world or perhaps older people watch more tv.

  10. #35

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Morris View Post
    I must admit to warming to American sports more these days. Especially the baseball.

    Game 5 of the World Series is about to start and they just had the anthem sung by a fella (a country singer i guess) but the crowd were silent.

    Here the anthem is sung by all, the designated singer and the crowd. There it was the soloist only. Is there a reason for that?
    You're supposed to listen with your hand on your heart and look in the direction of the flag. There's no rule that you can't sing along, but it's not supposed to be a giant sing along, and as others have mentioned it's not an easy tune. It could easily fall apart at the "and the rocket's red glare..." bit

  11. #36

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by elytillidie View Post
    Worked in the USA quite a bit, used to slag their sports off big time, occasionally one of them would reply with cricket which usually shut me up. Hard to defend. They've got to have plenty of scoring, couldn't comprehend how a football game could end 0-0 and still be entertaining.
    Ridiculous, but symptomatic of a culture/society that has evidently f*cked itself up. No doubt the same will be true of UK soon enough.

    TBH I find 'American' sports - presented in the American way - almost impossible to relate to, nor enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    How hard is it to learn how to sing your national anthem?

    We know ours and 95% of us don’t even speak the language.

    Thick and lazy if you ask me.
    I don't know 'our' national anthem if you're referring to GSTQ. I could just about manage the first verse but after that I'm lost.

    God Save the Queen

    God save our gracious Queen,
    Long live our noble Queen,
    God save the Queen!
    Send her victorious,
    Happy and glorious,
    Long to reign over us,
    God save the Queen!

    O lord God arise,
    Scatter our enemies,
    And make them fall!
    Confound their knavish tricks,
    Confuse their politics,
    On you our hopes we fix,
    God save the Queen!

    Not in this land alone,
    But be God's mercies known,
    From shore to shore!
    Lord make the nations see,
    That men should brothers be,
    And form one family,
    The wide world ov'er

    From every latent foe,
    From the assassin's blow,
    God save the Queen!
    O'er her thine arm extend,
    For Britain's sake defend,
    Our mother, prince, and friend,
    God save the Queen!

    Thy choicest gifts in store,
    On her be pleased to pour,
    Long may she reign!
    May she defend our laws,
    And ever give us cause,
    To sing with heart and voice,
    God save the Queen!

    source: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/n/nat...hemlyrics.html

    It is still a bag of miserable imperialist doggerel set to the most depressing dirge in the history of music, but at least the powers that be have stopped explicitly abusing the Scots in the current version.

  13. #38

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    Basketball.

    Now there's a sport I can't get my head around.
    Team gets ball, runs down the other end, scores.
    Other team gets ball, runs down the other end, scores.

    Common sort of score is 120-118

  14. #39

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    The vast majority of countries around the world do not seriously engage in rugby and cricket!
    Cricket must be one of the most popular sports in the world though, because of its dominance in the Indian subcontinent.

  15. #40

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I'll give you a clue. The answer is 12.
    So only 12 nations teams in the world play cricket ?

    That's 11 more nations than play in the " World Series " which is just one yank leagues winners
    playing another yank leagues winners in a play off. Just like American football bullshit " Superbowl ".

  16. #41

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I don't know 'our' national anthem if you're referring to GSTQ. I could just about manage the first verse but after that I'm lost.

    God Save the Queen

    God save our gracious Queen,
    Long live our noble Queen,
    God save the Queen!
    Send her victorious,
    Happy and glorious,
    Long to reign over us,
    God save the Queen!

    O lord God arise,
    Scatter our enemies,
    And make them fall!
    Confound their knavish tricks,
    Confuse their politics,
    On you our hopes we fix,
    God save the Queen!

    Not in this land alone,
    But be God's mercies known,
    From shore to shore!
    Lord make the nations see,
    That men should brothers be,
    And form one family,
    The wide world ov'er

    From every latent foe,
    From the assassin's blow,
    God save the Queen!
    O'er her thine arm extend,
    For Britain's sake defend,
    Our mother, prince, and friend,
    God save the Queen!

    Thy choicest gifts in store,
    On her be pleased to pour,
    Long may she reign!
    May she defend our laws,
    And ever give us cause,
    To sing with heart and voice,
    God save the Queen!

    source: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/n/nat...hemlyrics.html

    It is still a bag of miserable imperialist doggerel set to the most depressing dirge in the history of music, but at least the powers that be have stopped explicitly abusing the Scots in the current version.
    Spot on Jon !

  17. #42

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    His spelling is bloody atrocious.
    Little bit pedantic

  18. #43

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    Basketball.

    Now there's a sport I can't get my head around.
    Team gets ball, runs down the other end, scores.
    Other team gets ball, runs down the other end, scores.

    Common sort of score is 120-118
    DUB NATION!

  19. #44

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    Basketball.

    Now there's a sport I can't get my head around.
    Team gets ball, runs down the other end, scores.
    Other team gets ball, runs down the other end, scores.

    Common sort of score is 120-118
    That's how I see it too.

  20. #45

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWales View Post
    So only 12 nations teams in the world play cricket ?

    That's 11 more nations than play in the " World Series " which is just one yank leagues winners
    playing another yank leagues winners in a play off. Just like American football bullshit " Superbowl ".
    What is your objection to the term Super Bowl?

  21. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    That's how I see it too.
    I view it as a fast paced football
    But with hands
    And baskets for goals
    And a screamer is a 3-pointer

  22. #47

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by adz-a32 View Post
    DUB NATION!
    Huh?

  23. #48

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by adz-a32 View Post
    I view it as a fast paced football
    But with hands
    And baskets for goals
    And a screamer is a 3-pointer
    Would you want to watch a football match where the final score was 35-33?

  24. #49

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    Adz will let you know in about three years.

  25. #50

    Re: Americans and their national anthem

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    What is your objection to the term Super Bowl?
    It isn't at all Super to most people in the world , only Yanks.

    Stupor bowl is more apt. Ads v actual play make it a borefest.

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