Patterson in Scotland squad

[the other bob wilson]

Clearly good Scottish stock then, no nasty foreign genes...

Born in London with a Zimbabwean mother and a South African grandmother - bit of a cheap shot that.

[ccfc_is_my_life]

Born in London with a Zimbabwean mother and a South African grandmother - bit of a cheap shot that.

Mackay will be lynched by the SNP over that, picking an Englishman...

Sorry it's a cheap shot at Mackay. I just hate racists who engage in racist, homophobic, sexist and anti-semitic "banter" using work equipment. I should consider the poor love's feelings...

[the other bob wilson]

Mackay will be lynched by the SNP over that, picking an Englishman...

Sorry it's a cheap shot at Mackay. I just hate racists who engage in racist, homophobic, sexist and anti-semitic "banter" using work equipment. I should consider the poor love's feelings...

Yeah right, Mackay did wrong and has paid a very heavy price for it in terms of how a promising managerial career has worked out. As far as people of a certain age (like me and, I suspect, you) are concerned, I say let he who is without sin in the areas you list cast the first stone. Are you really saying you have never used the sort of language Mackay used ever in your life?

[ccfc_is_my_life]

Yeah right, Mackay did wrong and has paid a very heavy price for it in terms of how a promising managerial career has worked out. As far as people of a certain age (like me and, I suspect, you) are concerned, I say let he who is without sin in the areas you list cast the first stone. Are you really saying you have never used the sort of language Mackay used ever in your life?

I never have, no. Certainly never in adult life nor in a professional context as Mackay did.

I just don't buy the "oh, it was prevalent back in the day" approach as a means to provide any semblance of rationale for it tbh. Mackay was hardly some coffin dodger, borderline senile "back in my day" person.

[the other bob wilson]

I never have, no. Certainly never in adult life nor in a professional context as Mackay did.

I just don't buy the "oh, it was prevalent back in the day" approach as a means to provide any semblance of rationale for it tbh. Mackay was hardly some coffin dodger, borderline senile "back in my day" person.

Interesting that it takes you all of one sentence to start qualifying the definite no you started with.

[ccfc_is_my_life]

Interesting that it takes you all of one sentence to start qualifying the definite no you started with.

It's not a case of qualifying, it's a case of direct comparison with the circumstances within which Mackay made numerous comments - in that Mackay and Moody felt emboldened enough to do so in a professional environment...

[Loramski]

Yeah right, Mackay did wrong and has paid a very heavy price for it in terms of how a promising managerial career has worked out. As far as people of a certain age (like me and, I suspect, you) are concerned, I say let he who is without sin in the areas you list cast the first stone. Are you really saying you have never used the sort of language Mackay used ever in your life?

It's coming across as though you're defending the indefensible here, it doesn't do you any favours at all. Here's 'the sort of language' Malky was using.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ncent-Tan.html

Trying to claim that anyone who criticises Malky is a hypocrite because in private we're all racist, sexist, homophobes is best left to posters much further down the food chain than yourself. I really would let it go if I were you.

[the other bob wilson]

It's coming across as though you're defending the indefensible here, it doesn't do you any favours at all. Here's 'the sort of language' Malky was using.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ncent-Tan.html

Trying to claim that anyone who criticises Malky is a hypocrite because in private we're all racist, sexist, homophobes is best left to posters much further down the food chain than yourself. I really would let it go if I were you.

I wrote a piece that appeared in the Echo three years ago which set out my disappointment at and feeling of being let down by Malky Mackay and I've not changed my opinion of him in the intervening period.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/f...ht-man-8175107

As you can see, I ended by saying he shouldn't be allowed to forget the way he behaved and, again, I stick to that - he should never be allowed to feel that what he did has been forgotten or forgiven in any way, but I thought this thread was supposed to be about a City player who had been selected in the Scotland squad, not yet another discussion on here about our former manager's stupid comments.

I'm sorry, but I do think there is a degree of hypocrisy in the reaction of many people of a certain age to the whole Mackay situation. However, I'll qualify that by saying that, for me, the worst aspect of his racism was that it came relatively recently at a time when so many of those who were rushing to condemn him, despite having said similar or worse things earlier in their life, had genuinely changed with the times - the penny had dropped for them in a way that it hadn't done for Mackay.