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  1. #81

    Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock

    Criticism of a referee and bluntly blaming the referee are two different things. Warnock hasn't once said "we didn't win because Martin was poor" etc.

  2. #82

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Źźzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz😥😴😴😴😴
    Good idea

    Goodnight the hypocrite from Mars

  3. #83

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Way View Post
    Criticism of a referee and bluntly blaming the referee are two different things. Warnock hasn't once said "we didn't win because Martin was poor" etc.
    If he just criticising a poor referee performance, and not blaming him, why not acknowledge the errors he made for both teams?

    Instead he says the lad dived for the one where Morrision clearly pulled his shoulder and as last man should have been sent off 😂

    If itís not a shifting the blame game please tell me why you donít hear him mentioning the ref when we win? Funny that 🤔

  4. #84

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Źźzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz😥😴😴😴😴
    Thread can easily be ignored.

  5. #85

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    If he just criticising a poor referee performance, and not blaming him, why not acknowledge the errors he made for both teams?

    Instead he says the lad dived for the one where Morrision clearly pulled his shoulder and as last man should have been sent off ��

    If it’s not a shifting the blame game please tell me why you don’t hear him mentioning the ref when we win? Funny that ��
    Warnock said he was consistently poor throughout, but we "had to take our chances" and "lacked that clinical touch". Where was the blame? Even if he says we should've had a pen, doesn't mean he's blamed him for the draw, penalty doesn't guarantee the win. Funny that you seem to be ignoring where he says that we haven't taken our chances and are solely focusing on his comments on the referee.

    When we win, why should he have to talk about the ref? He'll obviously talk our team up. All managers do this.

  6. #86

    Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock

    Negative cock.

  7. #87

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Way View Post
    Warnock said he was consistently poor throughout, but we "had to take our chances" and "lacked that clinical touch". Where was the blame? Even if he says we should've had a pen, doesn't mean he's blamed him for the draw, penalty doesn't guarantee the win. Funny that you seem to be ignoring where he says that we haven't taken our chances and are solely focusing on his comments on the referee.

    When we win, why should he have to talk about the ref? He'll obviously talk our team up. All managers do this.
    I havenít ignored it at all. I said in a previous post he spent most of the post match interview speaking about the ref, then a small little summary of his team at the end.

    I am focusing on his comments about the referee because, as I said in the opening post, im fed up of him blaming referees for poor performances.

    We were shocking up at St Andrews a couple of weeks ago yet he is going ballistic about the referee, saying the players deserved better from the officials. Sorry but we got what we deserved that night, absolutely nothing.

    And all managers do not have a pop at referees like Warnock does. Heís one of the worst in the game.

  8. #88

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Negative cock.
    Donít you start!!!

  9. #89

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I haven’t ignored it at all. I said in a previous post he spent most of the post match interview speaking about the ref, then a small little summary of his team at the end.

    I am focusing on his comments about the referee because, as I said in the opening post, im fed up of him blaming referees for poor performances.

    We were shocking up at St Andrews a couple of weeks ago yet he is going ballistic about the referee, saying the players deserved better from the officials. Sorry but we got what we deserved that night, absolutely nothing.

    And all managers do not have a pop at referees like Warnock does. He’s one of the worst in the game.
    Would you disagree with his comments on the ref at Birmingham? Especially if the ref has said anywhere else on the park and it's a pen? That's ineptitude.

    He later said that we didn't do enough to win, "didn't get enough shots in, the final pass was poor" but again, you seem to ignore that. All managers slate referees when decisions go against them, big difference between criticism and blaming though. If you're fed up with that, I question why you're not fed up with the poor officiating. He's not saying it for shits and giggles, he's saying it because Morrison gets dragged down twice or three times a game and we get nothing, he's saying it because Bennett gets his bonce knocked off. They're not the reasons we drop points, as he goes on to point out, we may have struggled with shots etc.

  10. #90

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Donít you start!!!
    Lol.
    Couldn't resist. Actually, I think we both have very similar opinions regarding Warnock.

    Doing a good job - yes. The Messiah? Not quite.

  11. #91

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Sorry but we canít keep pointing back to the beginning of last season.

    This is Warnocks squad and has his stamp on it now. If there are poor performances masked by him blaming the ref then Iím going to say so.
    And rightly so. I think that it's a fair question, and a good one to debate. Posters, putting down your question, by basically saying that we were shit a year ago, don't seem to understand your point, and whatever has gone on in the past, isn't relevant to what you're saying. I agree with you, Warnock does look for an 'out' when blaming the Referee.

  12. #92

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Lol.
    Couldn't resist. Actually, I think we both have very similar opinions regarding Warnock.

    Doing a good job - yes. The Messiah? Not quite.
    He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
    Apparently.

  13. #93

    Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock

    I agree that Warnock can use the ref to deflect awkward questions about him and his team's performance at times - it may have been a penalty at Birmingham, but he must have known that his sides performance was nowhere near good enough for a team that were top of the table at kick off.

    However, Saturday seems to be the wrong game to use to bring this matter up on here because both managers and what has to be the very large majority of those in attendance must have had the same opinion about the ref's handling of the match - Warnock was justified in complaining about Martin.

  14. #94

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Good idea

    Goodnight the hypocrite from Mars
    Morning wind up what's for breakfast

  15. #95

    Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Thread can easily be ignored.
    Or one needs to sleep after a marathon thread session as this ,my fingers are alive once again.

    Anyway that Warnock fella ::

    Bought in excellent players on a shoe string compared to others around us .

    Found some diamond's in the lower leagues, got them playing ,probaly providing some useful future sell on revenues.

    Resurrected Gunnerson and Zohore (with the later probaly delivering the club millions ,if and when sold) and Harris last year.

    Brought in two fine free agents in Bamba / Holilett.

    Got Manga to stay and play more regularly than I can remeber which may guarantee a future sell on fee instead of a free exit .

    Bought , in my view ,an excellent player in Patterson.

    Created competion in all places and a better bench .


    Brought smiles back to the stadium ,brought the majority of fans closer to the club .

    Increased attendances.

    Kept us firing and competing at the top of the league with a good side not a great one .

    Built a cracking defensive unit .

    Created an attack in team that teams now fear ,which has resulted in teams rocking up with a park the bus mentalty , note Derby , Millwall .

    Deflects critism away from the players in games such as the Millwall game by looking for media speak alternatives, ie referees, whilst man managing players privately. ( and most referees in the league are poor , and deserve critism )

    Beaten some good teams such as Leeds,Wolves ,Villa, Boro, Sheff Utd .

    We are very lucky to have this man, anyone wanting to add some positives feel free to do so , we have to consider we are underfunded, an unfinished article , lacking creativity in midfield ,and a real back up option to Zohore, taking all that into consideration we will have to grind out results like Saturday's

    Have we lost many (nope)

    Are we City and together ,I hope so , as we all have a part to play even when its gets tough .

  16. #96

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    Quote Originally Posted by valley boy View Post
    I think you are on your own mate.As long as the results are coming our way NW can do or say what he likes.If the so called star managers do it people say its mind games and call it being clever.
    NW may not want to knock the confidence out of his players others will do that for us.He may well be trying to get into the heads of visiting referees who will be more than aware of being highlighted by NW if they are not seen by him to perform well.
    NW has been doing this a long time and he does not need us telling what to do.

    Too true some fans are unbelievable!!!!!

  17. #97

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Morning wind up what's for breakfast
    Eggs Benedict

    Love to stay and chat but Iíve got a train to catch to Manchester, where Iíll be for next few days.

    Dont be upset if I donít nibble too much on your bait as I donít wish to waste my mobile data.


  18. #98

    Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock

    Yes.

    But he still Got it wrong Saturday going so defensive. Just my opinion.

  19. #99

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    Hartley, while you are in Manchester why don't you buy a season ticket for one of their teams, I think you will be happier than supporting Cardiff city. You really are unbelievable, I am lost for words, you are twisting Warnocks words to suit your own agenda, and only focusing on comments that suit it, not a balanced view at all. Warnock is the best manager for years, and performances are more down to teams parking the bus as they feel that is the only way that they will get a result. If you cannot see that the ref on Saturday was absolutely rubbish, and definitely had a negative effect on the game, then you really know absolutely nothing about football. Enjoy Manchester, going to take a game in while there? Not going to tonight's game then?

  20. #100

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    Warnock is the best manager we have had in years

  21. #101

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    How this thread has 3 stars god only knows

  22. #102

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    I think Mendez Laing turning into the championship ronaldo early made us look better than we actually are

    If we can't get zohore back on form I think mid table beckons

    Others teams squads are far stronger

    We are guaranteed a poor run of games at some point so I'd rather it this side of christmas

  23. #103

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Warnock is the best manager we have had in years
    Given the 3 that come before him that not exactly difficult Sludge

  24. #104

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igovernor View Post
    Hartley, while you are in Manchester why don't you buy a season ticket for one of their teams, I think you will be happier than supporting Cardiff city. You really are unbelievable, I am lost for words, you are twisting Warnocks words to suit your own agenda, and only focusing on comments that suit it, not a balanced view at all. Warnock is the best manager for years, and performances are more down to teams parking the bus as they feel that is the only way that they will get a result. If you cannot see that the ref on Saturday was absolutely rubbish, and definitely had a negative effect on the game, then you really know absolutely nothing about football. Enjoy Manchester, going to take a game in while there? Not going to tonight's game then?
    Why do posters revert to childish comments like ďgo support Man U or CityĒ. Youíre coming across like some kind of super fan, what makes you better? Heís giving his opinion on Warnock, heís not denying heís been a great manager, heís not denying heís made a massive impact on us over the last year, and heís not calling for his head!! Heís just saying that Warnock has an habit of blaming the officials from time to time when the result doesnít go his way. Those kind of comments by Warnock have not just been said in his time here, heís used those comments throughout his career.

    Thereís no denying Warnock is a great manager but JR is just stating heís not above criticism.

  25. #105

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Blaming the referee after another poor performance?

    Heís worse than Mourinho and Russell Slade.

    Most recently heís done it at Birmingham weíre we clearly 2nd best, and heís done it again Saturday, where we were just as poor as the ref.

    Yes, the ref was poor Saturday but poor for both teams!! If he had sent Morrison off for his foul then there would be no foul to give at the end when the centre half was all over him.

    I get that managers like to deflect the blame but itís getting tedious when he does it nearly every time we play poorly.

    Itís almost as frustrating as Tomlin and/or Damour not getting a run in the team.

    I thought Malky had his favourites but Warnocks taking it to another level.
    Do you post this shite for attention?

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    Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock

    Yes but JR's question was "ISsanyone else getting fed up of Warnock blaming the ref after another poor performance?"

    Let's break that down a second.

    The implication behind the question is that Warnock suggested that we failed to win because of the ref. Fact is he didn't

    Yes he criticised the ref. Everyone in the ground thought he was poor, even JR.

    This thread is still going because, myself included, we all appear incapable of accepting that someone else might have a different opinion and it is our job to convince everyone else that we're right and they're wrong.

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    Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock

    If NW says the Ref was shit then that's good enough for me . I'd sooner listen to a QUALIFIED manager than a couple of planks on a message board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    If NW says the Ref was shit then that's good enough for me . I'd sooner listen to a QUALIFIED manager than a couple of planks on a message board.
    Both managers said he was shit. So did about 18,000 planks.

  29. #109

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    Isn't this what you expect with Warnock? I suspect if he was keeping schtum after a drop in performances people would start accusing him of losing his passion and being past his sell-by date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    Both managers said he was shit. So did about 18,000 planks.
    But fartley and stants sister don't think that was the reason behind the result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louth View Post
    Do you post this shite for attention?
    Now now, don’t judge others by your own standards.

    Fancy your chances against the Danes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    But fartley and stants sister don't think that was the reason behind the result.
    Go back to bed Mandy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    But fartley and stants sister don't think that was the reason behind the result.
    They're right.

    The Ref was crap and so were we.

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    Dont be upset if I donít nibble too much on your bait as I donít wish to waste my mobile data.

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  35. #115

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    But fartley and stants sister don't think that was the reason behind the result.
    How old are you? Do you also call Leeds weeds and Johnny Williams joniesta?

    Think this thread has gotten past silly now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    How old are you? Do you also call Leeds weeds and Johnny Williams joniesta?
    I'm already spoken for soz. Yes and yes.

  37. #117

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    Phil stants brother its not an opinion is it? Its a slgging off of our manager. Warnock is not infallable but when every man and his dog including the two managers state that the ref was terrible why just pick on Warnock, i am not trying to change opinions here but this type of negative post is crap, we should all support the club, the manager, and the players instead of trying to score points. Bye the way although i have supported city for nearly 60 years, and having seen most things the ups and downs, i do not regard myself as a super fan but i do give the benefit of the doubt to what Warnock is trying to do, it is really a shame that other fans do not do the same!!!!!
    Ps WArnock is a qualified referee

  38. #118

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    I'm already spoken for soz. Yes and yes.
    He’s not asking for a date Randy Tandy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igovernor View Post
    Phil stants brother its not an opinion is it? Its a slgging off of our manager. Warnock is not infallable but when every man and his dog including the two managers state that the ref was terrible why just pick on Warnock, i am not trying to change opinions here but this type of negative post is crap, we should all support the club, the manager, and the players instead of trying to score points. Bye the way although i have supported city for nearly 60 years, and having seen most things the ups and downs, i do not regard myself as a super fan but i do give the benefit of the doubt to what Warnock is trying to do, it is really a shame that other fans do not do the same!!!!!
    Ps WArnock is a qualified referee
    JRH says himself in his opening post that the ref was poor, hes not saying otherwise. I think the point hes making is Warnock does it all too often as en excuse to deflect poor performances, and I must admit, although Neil has been absolutely superb in his time here, JRH does make some valid points on this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill Stants brother View Post
    He’s not asking for a date Randy Tandy.
    Couldn't listen to the moaning...

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