It's a common theme with all managers...
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It's a common theme with all managers...
Some more than others.Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
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Criticism of a referee and bluntly blaming the referee are two different things. Warnock hasn't once said "we didn't win because Martin was poor" etc.
Good idea
Goodnight the hypocrite from Mars
If he just criticising a poor referee performance, and not blaming him, why not acknowledge the errors he made for both teams?
Instead he says the lad dived for the one where Morrision clearly pulled his shoulder and as last man should have been sent off 😂
If it’s not a shifting the blame game please tell me why you don’t hear him mentioning the ref when we win? Funny that 🤔
Warnock said he was consistently poor throughout, but we "had to take our chances" and "lacked that clinical touch". Where was the blame? Even if he says we should've had a pen, doesn't mean he's blamed him for the draw, penalty doesn't guarantee the win. Funny that you seem to be ignoring where he says that we haven't taken our chances and are solely focusing on his comments on the referee.
When we win, why should he have to talk about the ref? He'll obviously talk our team up. All managers do this.
Thread can easily be ignored.
Negative cock.
I haven’t ignored it at all. I said in a previous post he spent most of the post match interview speaking about the ref, then a small little summary of his team at the end.
I am focusing on his comments about the referee because, as I said in the opening post, im fed up of him blaming referees for poor performances.
We were shocking up at St Andrews a couple of weeks ago yet he is going ballistic about the referee, saying the players deserved better from the officials. Sorry but we got what we deserved that night, absolutely nothing.
And all managers do not have a pop at referees like Warnock does. He’s one of the worst in the game.
Would you disagree with his comments on the ref at Birmingham? Especially if the ref has said anywhere else on the park and it's a pen? That's ineptitude.
He later said that we didn't do enough to win, "didn't get enough shots in, the final pass was poor" but again, you seem to ignore that. All managers slate referees when decisions go against them, big difference between criticism and blaming though. If you're fed up with that, I question why you're not fed up with the poor officiating. He's not saying it for shits and giggles, he's saying it because Morrison gets dragged down twice or three times a game and we get nothing, he's saying it because Bennett gets his bonce knocked off. They're not the reasons we drop points, as he goes on to point out, we may have struggled with shots etc.
Don’t you start!!!Negative cock.
Lol.
Couldn't resist. Actually, I think we both have very similar opinions regarding Warnock.
Doing a good job - yes. The Messiah? Not quite.
He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy.Lol.
Couldn't resist. Actually, I think we both have very similar opinions regarding Warnock.
Doing a good job - yes. The Messiah? Not quite.
Apparently.
I agree that Warnock can use the ref to deflect awkward questions about him and his team's performance at times - it may have been a penalty at Birmingham, but he must have known that his sides performance was nowhere near good enough for a team that were top of the table at kick off.
However, Saturday seems to be the wrong game to use to bring this matter up on here because both managers and what has to be the very large majority of those in attendance must have had the same opinion about the ref's handling of the match - Warnock was justified in complaining about Martin.
Morning wind up what's for breakfast
Eggs Benedict
Love to stay and chat but I’ve got a train to catch to Manchester, where I’ll be for next few days.
Dont be upset if I don’t nibble too much on your bait as I don’t wish to waste my mobile data.
Hartley, while you are in Manchester why don't you buy a season ticket for one of their teams, I think you will be happier than supporting Cardiff city. You really are unbelievable, I am lost for words, you are twisting Warnocks words to suit your own agenda, and only focusing on comments that suit it, not a balanced view at all. Warnock is the best manager for years, and performances are more down to teams parking the bus as they feel that is the only way that they will get a result. If you cannot see that the ref on Saturday was absolutely rubbish, and definitely had a negative effect on the game, then you really know absolutely nothing about football. Enjoy Manchester, going to take a game in while there? Not going to tonight's game then?
Why do posters revert to childish comments like “go support Man U or City”. You’re coming across like some kind of super fan, what makes you better? He’s giving his opinion on Warnock, he’s not denying he’s been a great manager, he’s not denying he’s made a massive impact on us over the last year, and he’s not calling for his head!! He’s just saying that Warnock has an habit of blaming the officials from time to time when the result doesn’t go his way. Those kind of comments by Warnock have not just been said in his time here, he’s used those comments throughout his career.
There’s no denying Warnock is a great manager but JR is just stating he’s not above criticism.
Phil stants brother its not an opinion is it? Its a slgging off of our manager. Warnock is not infallable but when every man and his dog including the two managers state that the ref was terrible why just pick on Warnock, i am not trying to change opinions here but this type of negative post is crap, we should all support the club, the manager, and the players instead of trying to score points. Bye the way although i have supported city for nearly 60 years, and having seen most things the ups and downs, i do not regard myself as a super fan but i do give the benefit of the doubt to what Warnock is trying to do, it is really a shame that other fans do not do the same!!!!!
Ps WArnock is a qualified referee
Oh Manchester, is wonderful, oh Manchester is wonderful. Its full of pies, chips and gravy, oh Manchester is wonderful.
I never tier of Manchester. In all my years going there. What a city. The clothes and music scene is second to none. I do love it around the Northern Quarter.
Anyway, try reading my opening post again, I acknowledged the ref was poor, but he was equally poor to both teams, something Warnock wouldnt acknowledge.
Delighted he took my suggestion on board and got Tomlin in the team and hey-ho we by all accounts put in one of the perofrmances of the season. No need for any diversion tactics from our Neil after that one.
All opinions welcome, so as long as the conform with the majority on here. :rollseyes:
Or one needs to sleep after a marathon thread session as this ,my fingers are alive once again.
Anyway that Warnock fella ::
Bought in excellent players on a shoe string compared to others around us .
Found some diamond's in the lower leagues, got them playing ,probaly providing some useful future sell on revenues.
Resurrected Gunnerson and Zohore (with the later probaly delivering the club millions ,if and when sold) and Harris last year.
Brought in two fine free agents in Bamba / Holilett.
Got Manga to stay and play more regularly than I can remeber which may guarantee a future sell on fee instead of a free exit .
Bought , in my view ,an excellent player in Patterson.
Created competion in all places and a better bench .
Brought smiles back to the stadium ,brought the majority of fans closer to the club .
Increased attendances.
Kept us firing and competing at the top of the league with a good side not a great one .
Built a cracking defensive unit .
Created an attack in team that teams now fear ,which has resulted in teams rocking up with a park the bus mentalty , note Derby , Millwall .
Deflects critism away from the players in games such as the Millwall game by looking for media speak alternatives, ie referees, whilst man managing players privately. ( and most referees in the league are poor , and deserve critism )
Beaten some good teams such as Leeds,Wolves ,Villa, Boro, Sheff Utd .
We are very lucky to have this man, anyone wanting to add some positives feel free to do so , we have to consider we are underfunded, an unfinished article , lacking creativity in midfield ,and a real back up option to Zohore, taking all that into consideration we will have to grind out results like Saturday's
Have we lost many (nope)
Are we City and together ,I hope so , as we all have a part to play even when its gets tough .
Yes.
But he still Got it wrong Saturday going so defensive. Just my opinion.
Very well said.some people are never happier unless they moan and look to find negative things to say.
In their own way I suppose its their way of enjoying it so let them get on with it as long as they dont upset the positive feeling that we have which is down to NW and Vincent Tan backing him.
I think Warnock has done a terrific job but I was frustrated with the performance and I cant stand it when managers look for an out by blaming the referee. Its something Warnock does often and it bugs me. I honestly think hes up there with Mourinho and Ferguson for blaming the refs. Things can bug us about even our closest loved ones, and I dont think theres any harm in saying so.
He also said the game went as he was expecting all week so I dont know why he didnt start Tomlin, or put him on sooner as the game was crying out for him. I have no doubt if we went into the Millwall game with the same team and tactics that we did Ipswich then we would have beaten them too.
Once I keep starting 20 threads a day about the rebrand, attendances and even our poor send off at Ninian Park then you can put me in the same catergory as **** Horibulus.
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