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    Coleman contract not renewed.

    Bloody disgrace. Suited tossers at the FAW

    We lost that critical tie almost certainly because the FAW gave the Irish fans twice as many tickets for the CCS than the cheating Irish FA gave us in Dublin

    Anyone that knows anything about football will understand how important fans are and that we were done over by our own moronic stupidity.

    Two wrongs donít make a right I hear you say.
    Maybe true but we are OUT. Morons.

    I repeat myself.

    Anyway why is Coleman waiting to hear his future.

    Disgusted.

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    Has it definitely not been renewed or has CC rejected a renewal?

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    Oh shut up. The fans had nothing to do with it. We could have played all night and not scored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Hill View Post
    Oh shut up. The fans had nothing to do with it. We could have played all night and not scored.
    Indeed. No threat upfront.

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    Not saying I agree or disagree with him getting a new contract, could be that he's decided he's done enough and doesn't want to continue now.

    But anyway, it wasn't down to that one game and the fans, count back how many draws we had? Might help you calm down if you shout out loud while you count too...

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    What’s this all about? I’ve heard no announcement. Still in talks aren’t they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas View Post
    What’s this all about? I’ve heard no announcement. Still in talks aren’t they?
    Not on any news outlet.

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    ITK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    ITK
    On Sky news tonight Coleman quoted as saying he has no idea what is going to happen so itís not been renewed and he had expected it to be concluded I conclude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2 View Post
    On Sky news tonight Coleman quoted as saying he has no idea what is going to happen so it’s not been renewed and he had expected it to be concluded I conclude.
    As long as Ryan Giggs isn't taking over!

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    Re: Coleman contract not renewed.

    Perhaps we can get Gary Monk to do it?

    I hear Leeds sacked him last night........



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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Not saying I agree or disagree with him getting a new contract, could be that he's decided he's done enough and doesn't want to continue now.

    But anyway, it wasn't down to that one game and the fans, count back how many draws we had? Might help you calm down if you shout out loud while you count too...
    It was down to that one game. If we had won we would have been through. I stand by my opinion that by giving the Irish more tickets than they allowed us we shot ourselves in the feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2 View Post
    It was down to that one game. If we had won we would have been through. I stand by my opinion that by giving the Irish more tickets than they allowed us we shot ourselves in the feet.
    Not starting with Woodburn was a bigger mistake. We were toothless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2 View Post
    It was down to that one game. If we had won we would have been through. I stand by my opinion that by giving the Irish more tickets than they allowed us we shot ourselves in the feet.
    It wasnít down to that one game though was it?

    It was a league type campaign. Every game mattered and we drew too many which left us with a mountain to climb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    As long as Ryan Giggs isn't taking over!
    He isn't.
    Jack fans want him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    He isn't.
    Jack fans want him.

    TFFT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    He isn't.
    Jack fans want him.

    He’ll need a map first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    It wasn’t down to that one game though was it?

    It was a league type campaign. Every game mattered and we drew too many which left us with a mountain to climb.
    We were ahead of Ireland in the table with home advantage for the final game. We should have made the most of that advantage by restricting the Irish support just like they did to is. It wasn’t Anfield 77 revisited but we gave Ireland a helping hand. Their support was very loud.

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    So we lost because the Irish had one to many fans what a load of bullshit Coleman only knows to play one way and if it doesn't work we're ****ed. I personally think we need a fresh approach but who takes over I don't have an answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieccfc View Post
    So we lost because the Irish had one to many fans what a load of bullshit Coleman only knows to play one way and if it doesn't work we're ****ed. I personally think we need a fresh approach but who takes over I don't have an answer
    Bellamy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieccfc View Post
    So we lost because the Irish had one to many fans what a load of bullshit Coleman only knows to play one way and if it doesn't work we're ****ed. I personally think we need a fresh approach but who takes over I don't have an answer
    It would definitely have given Ireland a big lift hearing all the noise from their supporters. We didn’t need to give their players that lift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    It would definitely have given Ireland a big lift hearing all the noise from their supporters. We didn’t need to give their players that lift.
    Putting jonni3 Williams on was more a lift than 10k extra paddies

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    Re: Coleman contract not renewed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas View Post
    What’s this all about? I’ve heard no announcement. Still in talks aren’t they?
    Yes they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Yes they are.
    That's what I thought, though who knows the outcome - yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2 View Post
    We lost that critical tie almost certainly because the FAW gave the Irish fans twice as many tickets for the CCS than the cheating Irish FA gave us in Dublin
    Bollocks.

    We failed to win the group or finish second because we weren't good enough in too many games.

    If Coleman's contract isn't renewed it won't be because of one game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieccfc View Post
    Putting jonni3 Williams on was more a lift than 10k extra paddies

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2 View Post
    It was down to that one game. If we had won we would have been through. I stand by my opinion that by giving the Irish more tickets than they allowed us we shot ourselves in the feet.
    Yes. Because we had failed to close out games before.. we shouldn't of realistically been in with a chance that late on anyway.

    If his contract isn't being renewed it won't be down to that one game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    It would definitely have given Ireland a big lift hearing all the noise from their supporters. We didn’t need to give their players that lift.
    Anyone who can't raise themselves for an occasion like that probably hasn't got a pulse.

    Sbit excuse. Only my opinion mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Anyone who can't raise themselves for an occasion like that probably hasn't got a pulse.

    Sbit excuse. Only my opinion mind.
    Absolutely. We should have taken care of business before the one-off with the dirty Irish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Absolutely. We should have taken care of business before the one-off with the dirty Irish.
    Exactly.

    And a few less Irish wouldn't of given our lot the shock they needed to get the ball zipping up the field a bit quicker anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Absolutely. We should have taken care of business before the one-off with the dirty Irish.
    I think some of our players were still in France during the earlier games, something was definitely missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I think some of our players were still in France during the earlier games, something was definitely missing.
    Yes, there was almost an expectancy that we'd do well.

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    I think a new direction with a younger manager and team might be the right path to take now, everything and everyone has a shelf life,a new vision, tactic , built around the youth, with someone like Bellamy would perhaps future proof Wales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I think a new direction with a younger manager and team might be the right path to take now, everything and everyone has a shelf life,a new vision, tactic , built around the youth, with someone like Bellamy would perhaps future proof Wales.
    It wouldn't be anything new for the Welsh FA regarding managerial experience, with Hughes having zero experience, and Speed all of 4 months experience with Sheffield United.

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    Allen being forced off is why we lost to Ireland, they didn't touch the ball when he was on the field

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    I think he will be offered a new deal no question. I not so sure he will want to sign it though. He will still be gutted just like the rest of us. This next camp might help with that. He obviously has a good bond with his players. Me personally I don't mind one bit if he stays.

    When you look how many times we had the big 3 on the pitch at one time its hard. That is what makes us be able to shift up through the gears. Hopefully a way of playing without them can be put into place once and for all that doesn't include John Williams playing at 10 and Ramsey at 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecity View Post
    Hopefully a way of playing without them can be put into place once and for all that doesn't include John Williams playing at 10 and Ramsey at 4.
    Groundbreaking tactics

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2 View Post
    Bloody disgrace. Suited tossers at the FAW

    We lost that critical tie almost certainly because the FAW gave the Irish fans twice as many tickets for the CCS than the cheating Irish FA gave us in Dublin

    Anyone that knows anything about football will understand how important fans are and that we were done over by our own moronic stupidity.

    Two wrongs donít make a right I hear you say.
    Maybe true but we are OUT. Morons.

    I repeat myself.

    Anyway why is Coleman waiting to hear his future.

    Disgusted.
    did you read what coleman actually said?.

    He is clearly holding out for more money:

    "You don't make your fortune managing wales".

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    I tuned into the Debate on Sky Sports last night, Bellamy was a guest pundit. They had a debate about Coleman amongst other topics. In typical no nonsense style Bellers believes the major issue lies between Coleman and the FAW on promises made on the back of our Euro 2016 windfall. Coleman wanted funds invested to build a purpose built training complex with gym facilities etc. Apparently this hasn't been forthcoming or at least not to the extent that Coleman/players desired due to cost and our manager has become frustrated with his bosses as he saw this as an opportunity to put an infrastructure in place that would have helped take us to the next level. Both parties are still however in talks and it could be that a compromise will be reached. I get the impression though that Coleman is very likely to call it a day and the FAW will turn to someone else who is not so forward thinking in an effort to cut costs.

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    Re: Coleman contract not renewed.

    Quote Originally Posted by LordKenwyne View Post
    did you read what coleman actually said?.

    He is clearly holding out for more money:

    "You don't make your fortune managing wales".
    I don't think he's 'clearly holding out for more money' at all. He was stating the bleeding obvious that Wales cannot afford to pay their manager at the same level as many clubs (or other international sides).

    Everything I have seen and heard from and about Coleman in recent days implies there is a negotiation going on about improved training facilities and backroom staff contracts. If the FAW offer enough in those areas he may well agree to stay. If not he will go. I do not see any evidence that the FAW don't want Coleman to continue.

    None of us know what is going on behind the scenes, and the FAW may be due some criticism, but overall they have got most things right since Jonathan Ford was appointed Chief Executive - from Gary Speed's appointment onwards.

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