that is not what i said though is it.
i asked " would they would still do it if they were not part of religion " , of course we would never know, but the amount of charity work done in the name of religion is a fair amount that i see, from the project i am involved with in Zimbabwe to the " christmas shoebox " charity that we filled for the school last week, would these happen without religion ( though i must say the Zimbabwe gig is now completely independent of any religion )