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    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by qccfc View Post
    Yeah of course the system is vigorous. However looking at the evidence is that the adoptive parent, became aggressive when he struggled to cope with the child's behavioral and sleep issues. You sometime find that foster and adoptive children will come to you with problem from the child's previous situation, and then also having to settle into a new environment.

    No amount of vetting will find out how you will cope with this pressure. If your back ground is squeaky clean going through the whole process, no social worker would be able to see the future.

    Social workers case loads are massive, and it tends to be the case that the workers will watch you initially and if there are no problems will leave you to it until they become notified of an issue. They then focus on their case load where reported problems occur.

    The X-ray seemed to be a missed opportunity, but there will always be cases like this.
    As a few posters posted mate, it was not the first time the poor mite was admitted to hospital and with being so so young
    I take it by your post qccfc you fostered or adopted children
    (I gotta say that's very admirable mate and not many could do that )
    maybe the training of the social workers is wrong ? I don't know
    maybe the whole process is wrong ?

  2. #2

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by qccfc View Post
    Social workers case loads are massive, and it tends to be the case that the workers will watch you initially and if there are no problems will leave you to it until they become notified of an issue. They then focus on their case load where reported problems occur.
    Nick Ferrari on LBC suggested to one caller that social workers need to do more homework by knocking on neighbours' doors and building up a profile of the people they are watching. He failed to mention how many extra social workers would be needed to afford the time for this, or the expense...

  3. #3

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    As Lardy says save your vitriol for hat utter **** who committed the act.

    Sadly our social worker, Cops, Probation Officers , medical staff are all under resourced and managing high workloads.

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    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    As Lardy says save your vitriol for hat utter **** who committed the act.

    Sadly our social worker, Cops, Probation Officers , medical staff are all under resourced and managing high workloads.
    Spot on.

    The blame lies solely with the guy who killed her.

    Hopefully his every waking moment from now on will be a living hell - that will be the least he deserves.

  5. #5

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    Homophobic or not, same sex couples should never be allowed to adopt or foster.
    Surely you are not serious?

  6. #6

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Igovernor View Post
    He was charged with murder, that is premeditated, if it was not premeditated he would have been charged with manslaughter
    Ah yes okay
    Could be he lied so much to try and wriggle out of it, saying he couldnt cope he may have got away with manslaughter on mental reasons. The ambulance call was a giveaway.

    Obviously has a screw loose.
    Deserves all that's coming to him.

  7. #7

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post
    Ah yes okay
    Could be he lied so much to try and wriggle out of it, saying he couldnt cope he may have got away with manslaughter on mental reasons. The ambulance call was a giveaway.

    Obviously has a screw loose.
    Deserves all that's coming to him.
    Good hope he hates every second of his time in side and rots like the scum he is.

  8. #8

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    Homophobic or not, same sex couples should never be allowed to adopt or foster.
    You stupid idiot

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    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    You stupid idiot
    People are allowed opinions Sludge without you being offensive.
    In an ideal world kids needing to be adopted or fostered, would find loving parents (male/female) and would be welcomed into a warm friendly safe household.
    Whilst same sex couples can also offer the above, you are, whether you like it or not, putting a child into unnatural surroundings..

  10. #10

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Anyone who has brought up a child knows that they can be very trying (the terrible twos comes to mind!). It requires a heck of a lot of love and patience, qualities that, in my opinion, are to be found more abundantly in women rather than men. Here was a situation where you have an adopted child effectively living with one adult male who is not the biological father (the male partner being away from home a lot it seems) and whose patience was probably stretched to the limit. Most kids including my own can be very trying as I’ve said but I don’t recall ever referring to them as “Satan in a baby-grow”. A truly tragic case.

  11. #11

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Social services have an extremely difficult job. I know several people that work in the field and they are easily the most dedicated, conscientious people I know. They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. On one hand they get blamed for not intervening quickly enough, on the other they are accused of being over zealous, of interfering and breaking families up. They certainly do not take incidences like this lightly and of course there are investigations with such cases, but short of monitoring people 24 hours a day, you can never ever guarantee that something like this won’t happen again.
    As others have said, there’s only one person guilty of causing that child’s death, and he’s in the right place.

  12. #12

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    People are allowed opinions Sludge without you being offensive.
    In an ideal world kids needing to be adopted or fostered, would find loving parents (male/female) and would be welcomed into a warm friendly safe household.
    Whilst same sex couples can also offer the above, you are, whether you like it or not, putting a child into unnatural surroundings..
    Opinions like that belong in the dark ages , it's an ignorant and idiotic thing to say

  13. #13

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    Meanwhile, scumbags who have more money than could be imagined, still look to escape their tax responsibility, all legal of course!!, utter greedy kents
    Totally agree , formula one world champion , stinking rich and he's still trying to grab more

    Makes me puke

  14. #14

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Premeditation is a requisite for a conviction for murder, therefore there must have been a degree of it, or recklessness or lack of care as to whether the child died or not. He was convicted of murder so at least one of those factors must be present, otherwise the charge would have been manslaughter.

    If anyone reads th acrticle his sentence was life with a MINIMUM sentence of 18 years. That means he has to do at least 18 years with good conduct to even be considered for parole and I'd guess his chances of ever getting parole are pretty slim.
    Still being homosexual I imagine he will find a few 'friends' inside.
    Some of her injuries were consistent with being hit with force by a blunt instrument

    It's likely that was a factor in him being convicted of murder but I am surprised he wasnt charged with manslaughter ........but we don't , as yet , know the details

  15. #15

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Opinions like that belong in the dark ages , it's an ignorant and idiotic thing to say
    Whose opinion. His or mine?

  16. #16

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
    Nail on the head
    Absolute bollocks

  17. #17

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Whose opinion. His or mine?
    His , I don't completely agree with yours but at least you back your views up

  18. #18

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    His , I don't completely agree with yours but at least you back your views up
    👍 Life would be boring if we all agreed on everything.

  19. #19

    Re: How come this scumbaga life sentence is only 18 years

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    👍 Life would be boring if we all agreed on everything.
    Indeed , regards

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