Ryan giggs a pundit on the England Germany game

[G rangetown Blue]

Giggs is Welsh, and one of the most decorated footballers in World footbal, we should be proud of him.

Yet, because he didn't turn out in a few friendlies, and meaningless dead rubber games for Wales, some small minded people accuse him of not being a passionate Welshman.

[blue matt]

Giggs is Welsh, and one of the most decorated footballers in World footbal, we should be proud of him.

Yet, because he didn't turn out in a few friendlies, and meaningless dead rubber games for Wales, some small minded people accuse him of not being a passionate Welshman.

you are right, but when the fans stumped up the money and travelled around the world to support the team ( we expected the best team available ) and he did not turn up, then was fit for Utd, it was just wrong

it used to pss me of no end

[Swbluebird]

Giggs is Welsh, and one of the most decorated footballers in World footbal, we should be proud of him.

Yet, because he didn't turn out in a few friendlies, and meaningless dead rubber games for Wales, some small minded people accuse him of not being a passionate Welshman.

Ryan Giggs made his Wales debut in 1991 and retired in 2007, 16 years as an international and he managed just 64 caps despite being the person who until recently held the record for most premier league appearances. In total he played 963 games for United.

Fact is the majority of that period Wales really needed Giggs to turn up, not only for his ability but for the message that it sent to the rest of the squad to ensure we had as strong a team out as possible, yet continually he let us down despite turning up for United. In the years 1994 - 1998 he made 11 Wales appearances, 11 in 5 years!! In the same period he played around 200 games for United.