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    Lest we forget

    Today is a day to remember those lost in conflict

    I am sure everyone has been affected

    In my case my grandfather was a medic in the trenches in world war one and was awarded the military medal for bravery .....he was a pacifist and refused to bear arms but he went to the front line to help the wounded

    My father's brother was 19 when he died when the Stirling bomber he was training in ......he was a rear gunner ......crashed during a training flight ......my father's family was from Birmingham and my dad's brother joined the RAF when members of his extended family were killed when the Nazis bombed Birmingham

    My father was only ten at the time but it deeply affected him and he never really talked about it until the latter stages of his life

    I am sure many other people today will have stories about loved ones lost or injured especially during the recent conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan

    May they all rest in peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Today is a day to remember those lost in conflict

    I am sure everyone has been affected

    In my case my grandfather was a medic in the trenches in world war one and was awarded the military medal for bravery .....he was a pacifist and refused to bear arms but he went to the front line to help the wounded

    My father's brother was 19 when he died when the Stirling bomber he was training in ......he was a rear gunner ......crashed during a training flight ......my father's family was from Birmingham and my dad's brother joined the RAF when members of his extended family were killed when the Nazis bombed Birmingham

    My father was only ten at the time but it deeply affected him and he never really talked about it until the latter stages of his life

    I am sure many other people today will have stories about loved ones lost or injured especially during the recent conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan

    May they all rest in peace
    Today and yesterday's two minutes silence puts everything in perspective.
    Some of todays media whinges are so insignificant compared to times of war, I have great respect for what our fore fathers endured some willing and some not so willing but so brave.
    Respect to all who fell and fought through tough and challenging eras, and shame to those who forget all too easy !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wokingbluebird View Post
    Today and yesterday's two minutes silence puts everything in perspective.
    Some of todays media whinges are so insignificant compared to times of war, I have great respect for what our fore fathers endured some willing and some not so willing but so brave.
    Respect to all who fell and fought through tough and challenging eras, and shame to those who forget all too easy !
    Today is a very sad time for so many people , I have great respect for those who join the armed forces and also to those who have lost their lives in conflict all over the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Today is a very sad time for so many people , I have great respect for those who join the armed forces and also to those who have lost their lives in conflict all over the world
    ^^^^^ agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wokingbluebird View Post
    ^^^^^ agreed
    My mother is going to the local remembrance parade , hopefully the sun will shine on the fallen heroes

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    There are a few youngsters who'd do well to read articles such as this...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41917784

    Reading some other light hearted threads recently about history ignorance on game shows of people, you have to question whether we are doing enough to educate people not just in schools but in the media.

    Lest we forget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post
    There are a few youngsters who'd do well to read articles such as this...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41917784

    Reading some other light hearted threads recently about history ignorance on game shows of people, you have to question whether we are doing enough to educate people not just in schools but in the media.

    Lest we forget.
    Cardiff docks seamen of all nationalities were vital to the war effort , keeping the supply lines going in the north Atlantic

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Today is a day to remember those lost in conflict

    I am sure everyone has been affected

    In my case my grandfather was a medic in the trenches in world war one and was awarded the military medal for bravery .....he was a pacifist and refused to bear arms but he went to the front line to help the wounded

    My father's brother was 19 when he died when the Stirling bomber he was training in ......he was a rear gunner ......crashed during a training flight ......my father's family was from Birmingham and my dad's brother joined the RAF when members of his extended family were killed when the Nazis bombed Birmingham

    My father was only ten at the time but it deeply affected him and he never really talked about it until the latter stages of his life

    I am sure many other people today will have stories about loved ones lost or injured especially during the recent conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan

    May they all rest in peace
    Agree with the sentiments Sludge but don't you find the whole Rememberance thing now being turned into an exercise for patriotism promoted by jingoistic arses?

    I've traditionally worn a poppy but haven't this year (I've still chucked money in the box) due to it losing its original meaning.

    Perhaps it's just me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Agree with the sentiments Sludge but don't you find the whole Rememberance thing now being turned into an exercise for patriotism promoted by jingoistic arses?

    I've traditionally worn a poppy but haven't this year (I've still chucked money in the box) due to it losing its original meaning.

    Perhaps it's just me?
    Organisations like Britain first have tried to hijack the parade for political means , helped of course by tabloids like the sun

    Millions of ordinary German and Russian soldiers died in the second world war too , they should be remembered too

    The fact that there were many polish pilots flying spitfires during the battle of Britain tells me remembrance Sunday is for everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Cardiff docks seamen of all nationalities were vital to the war effort , keeping the supply lines going in the north Atlantic
    My dad was a merchant seaman he spent 4years as a POW just outside Hamburg.My Mother said he was never the same again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Organisations like Britain first have tried to hijack the parade for political means , helped of course by tabloids like the sun

    Millions of ordinary German and Russian soldiers died in the second world war too , they should be remembered too

    The fact that there were many polish pilots flying spitfires during the battle of Britain tells me remembrance Sunday is for everyone
    and the 200,000 Irishmen who volunteered during the first world war, both protestant and catholic, despite the fact that Ireland was on the verge of civil war because of British occupation, 30,000 of them were killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Today is a day to remember those lost in conflict

    I am sure everyone has been affected

    In my case my grandfather was a medic in the trenches in world war one and was awarded the military medal for bravery .....he was a pacifist and refused to bear arms but he went to the front line to help the wounded

    My father's brother was 19 when he died when the Stirling bomber he was training in ......he was a rear gunner ......crashed during a training flight ......my father's family was from Birmingham and my dad's brother joined the RAF when members of his extended family were killed when the Nazis bombed Birmingham

    My father was only ten at the time but it deeply affected him and he never really talked about it until the latter stages of his life

    I am sure many other people today will have stories about loved ones lost or injured especially during the recent conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan

    May they all rest in peace
    My Wife's father was a veteran of, and survived the D Day landings (Leicestershire Yeomanry) we had a few chats of this late at night at their house in Hinckley when all others had gone to bed, the wife, never brought the subject up, it's something that Julie regrets that she never talked to her father about his time in the army, he would talk about it, but only if asked. We have his medals and other artifacts from the beach landings in Normandy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Organisations like Britain first have tried to hijack the parade for political means , helped of course by tabloids like the sun

    Millions of ordinary German and Russian soldiers died in the second world war too , they should be remembered too

    The fact that there were many polish pilots flying spitfires during the battle of Britain tells me remembrance Sunday is for everyone

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Nigel_Far...02241810448384

    He spoke at a far right rally in September the cuunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Nigel_Far...02241810448384

    He spoke at a far right rally in September the cuunt.
    Knows a few Hitler Youth tunes, too.

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    I sometimes wonder if they knew how the world would end up would they still have done the same

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    Apart from the beeb the only other channel to show any respect is Talking Pictures, they have a poppy in right hand corner.

    RIP to all the fallen, my father was lucky enough to survive Dunkirk and D Day and lived to the ripe old age of 91. He never did say much about the war.

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    We must not forget their sacrifice. We must strive for a peaceful, united world where everyone is equal and no-one lives under the fear of war, attack or discrimination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Cardiff docks seamen of all nationalities were vital to the war effort , keeping the supply lines going in the north Atlantic
    I went to my first remembrance day in Barry today after serving 35 years at sea; 10 years with commercial companies and 25 years with Royal Fleet Auxiliary (MOD) the latter being very much part of today's Royal Navy/UK's maritime operations. I remember sailing with a guy in early 80s on the Geest Line who got torpedoed twice in one day during WWll. I thought he was winding me up at first. But what trauma seafarers and serviceman suffered in them days. Some great stories he had to tell about seafaring during the war years; harsh times indeed.
    Spedger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloop_Jon_Bee View Post
    I went to my first remembrance day in Barry today after serving 35 years at sea; 10 years with commercial companies and 25 years with Royal Fleet Auxiliary (MOD) the latter being very much part of today's Royal Navy/UK's maritime operations. I remember sailing with a guy in early 80s on the Geest Line who got torpedoed twice in one day during WWll. I thought he was winding me up at first. But what trauma seafarers and serviceman suffered in them days. Some great stories he had to tell about seafaring during the war years; harsh times indeed.
    Spedger
    It must have been horrific

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    My dad was a merchant seaman he spent 4years as a POW just outside Hamburg.My Mother said he was never the same again.
    Hero mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian gibson View Post
    and the 200,000 Irishmen who volunteered during the first world war, both protestant and catholic, despite the fact that Ireland was on the verge of civil war because of British occupation, 30,000 of them were killed.
    It's unbelievable to think of numbers like that

    The numbers killed on the front line in world war one was staggering

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    My Wife's father was a veteran of, and survived the D Day landings (Leicestershire Yeomanry) we had a few chats of this late at night at their house in Hinckley when all others had gone to bed, the wife, never brought the subject up, it's something that Julie regrets that she never talked to her father about his time in the army, he would talk about it, but only if asked. We have his medals and other artifacts from the beach landings in Normandy.
    Another hero , my uncle is buried in Shrewsbury and my grandfather's military medal is at the town's museum

    The d day landings must have been so traumatic

    Just think , if Hitler hadn't been such a lunatic and left Russia alone , he might have conquered Europe

    As it was he took on Stalin , another psychopath , on the eastern front and gradually he was penned in from both sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Nigel_Far...02241810448384

    He spoke at a far right rally in September the cuunt.
    What a tosser he is

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    gra.jpg
    Map of Grangetown every red poppy denotes a household that lost a life in WW1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by insider View Post
    gra.jpg
    Map of Grangetown every red poppy denotes a household that lost a life in WW1.
    Fecking hell , we owe these men so much

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    Who watched the Remembrance Day Parade with the 99 year marine ?
    Bring a tear to a glass eye his speech.
    He soake about not wanting too see fighting on the streets or racial injustice.
    Moving stuff 👏👏

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Another hero , my uncle is buried in Shrewsbury and my grandfather's military medal is at the town's museum

    The d day landings must have been so traumatic

    Just think , if Hitler hadn't been such a lunatic and left Russia alone , he might have conquered Europe

    As it was he took on Stalin , another psychopath , on the eastern front and gradually he was penned in from both sides
    My mums great grandfather died at the battle of loos with Lord Ninian Edward Crichton-Stuart, my father's grandfather died at sea sunk by 'U' boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by insider View Post
    gra.jpg
    Map of Grangetown every red poppy denotes a household that lost a life in WW1.
    Unbelievable.

    I have to agree with some other posters though, it's so sad that the poppy seems to have been hijacked by right wing xenephobes in recent years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    Unbelievable.

    I have to agree with some other posters though, it's so sad that the poppy seems to have been hijacked by right wing xenephobes in recent years.
    Agreed, and also hijacked by the BBC as a fashion accessory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Who watched the Remembrance Day Parade with the 99 year marine ?
    Bring a tear to a glass eye his speech.
    He soake about not wanting too see fighting on the streets or racial injustice.
    Moving stuff 👏👏
    Yep , very moving

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    My mums great grandfather died at the battle of loos with Lord Ninian Edward Crichton-Stuart, my father's grandfather died at sea sunk by 'U' boat.
    Heroes mate

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    An image such as that illustrates the loss and the reasons we shouldn't forget. Not the modern day images of some publicity seeking, politically motivated waanker waving a Union Jack.

    Re: Grangetown map by Insider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by insider View Post
    gra.jpg
    Map of Grangetown every red poppy denotes a household that lost a life in WW1.
    A double tragedy being that a lot of that map also lost family members during WW2. Stockland Street corner took a direct hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post
    There are a few youngsters who'd do well to read articles such as this...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41917784

    Reading some other light hearted threads recently about history ignorance on game shows of people, you have to question whether we are doing enough to educate people not just in schools but in the media.

    Lest we forget.
    My 7 year old son is learning about WW2 in school. He is fascinated by it and it really is something that we should never forget. When I was in an old school, there were names above each classroom of pupils who died in action in WW1.

    We missed the two minutes silence because of a family loss, and he was the one who reminded me about it. So, we had two minutes of silence later in the day.

    I think we are doing enough to educate kids about this - the problem being that, whilst I had four grandparents who were kids during the War, and who could tell me stories, many kids have no such links now. Therefore, it becomes more of an abstract notion I guess.

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    Five brothers who died in action in World War One

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-41920834

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
    Five brothers who died in action in World War One



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-41920834
    Phew that's moving

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt View Post
    My 7 year old son is learning about WW2 in school. He is fascinated by it and it really is something that we should never forget. When I was in an old school, there were names above each classroom of pupils who died in action in WW1.

    We missed the two minutes silence because of a family loss, and he was the one who reminded me about it. So, we had two minutes of silence later in the day.

    I think we are doing enough to educate kids about this - the problem being that, whilst I had four grandparents who were kids during the War, and who could tell me stories, many kids have no such links now. Therefore, it becomes more of an abstract notion I guess.
    Day trip to the London War Museum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
    Five brothers who died in action in World War One

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-41920834
    Wow. Unimaginable heartache for the lady.

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    I'm unsure why World War 1 is still remembered as everyone who fought in the confilct is dead. Otherwise let's pretend we give a flying feck about those who died in the Boer War, Napoleonic Wars and every other war that preceded it. Public displays of remembrance always reek of insincerity, whether it be at the Cenotaph in London, football grounds or anywhere else. It's more of a keeping up appearences exercise.

    I have more time for those who were brave enough to refuse to kill on someone else's command and suffered as a consequence of sticking to their principles.

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