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    Next Wales Manager

    Latest Odds:

    Ryan Giggs 4/6
    Tony Pulis 4/1
    Kenny Jackett 12/1
    Craig Bellamy 16/1
    Mark Hughes 16/1
    Alan Pardew 20/1
    Dean Saunders 20/1
    Geriant Williams 25/1
    Harry Redknapp 25/1
    Iwan Roberts 25/1
    Kit Symons 25/1
    Lars Lagerback 25/1
    Phillipe Troussier 25/1
    Bert Van Marwijk 33/1
    Brian Flynn 33/1
    Brian McDermott 33/1
    Gianfranco Zola 33/1
    Gordon Strachan 33/1
    Graeme Souness 33/1
    Jean Tigana 33/1
    Kenny Dalglish 33/1
    Luis Enrique 33/1
    Marco Tardelli 33/1
    Martin ONeill 33/1
    Mick McCarthy 33/1
    Nigel Worthington 33/1
    Paul Trollope 33/1
    Ray Wilkins 33/1
    Raymond Verheijen 33/1
    Simon Davey 33/1
    Glyn Hodges 40/1
    Malky Mackay 40/1
    Owen Coyle 40/1
    Alex McLeish 50/1
    Chris Hughton 50/1
    John Hartson 50/1
    John Toshack 66/1
    Robbie Savage 100/1

    https://www.oddschecker.com/football...manent-manager

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    Sky Bet have Thierry Henry at 9/1 also.

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    No RONALD KOEMAN on that list !

    Not that I'm advocating him, just that bookies nearly always put every name in the frame.

    Thierry Henry for me, working alongside the same backroom staff.

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    Can’t believe the bitterness toward Giggs. Ok. He never turned up for his country on many an occasion, but neither do the fans. He has no managerial experience, but knows the game inside out. I’d rather have him in charge, than a foreigner any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Can’t believe the bitterness toward Giggs. Ok. He never turned up for his country on many an occasion, but neither do the fans. He has no managerial experience, but knows the game inside out. I’d rather have him in charge, than a foreigner any day.
    It's the perfect job for giggs , he doesn't like coming back home to Cardiff very often and he can have lots of time off

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    Pulis for me, with young assistant to bring through. If Chris Coleman can achieve what he did, then Pulis with his experience will do for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Can’t believe the bitterness toward Giggs. Ok. He never turned up for his country on many an occasion, but neither do the fans. He has no managerial experience, but knows the game inside out. I’d rather have him in charge, than a foreigner any day.
    Noooooooooooooo, anyone but Giggs. He showed no passion or commitment whatsoever. He could have been an inspirational type of figure for up n' coming younger players. Instead he was lazy and half-arsed about playing for the country of his birth. Also he has no experience of managing a club, let alone an international one. Let him earn his spurs at a non-league team, by doing something to prove that he is the man for the job. By say, taking Merthyr into the Football League. Something along those lines. Or let him feck up at a premier league team, which I am sure he would. Go on Giggs take over at Man Ure and bring 'em down to he Championship!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    Noooooooooooooo, anyone but Giggs. He showed no passion or commitment whatsoever. He could have been an inspirational type of figure for up n' coming younger players. Instead he was lazy and half-arsed about playing for the country of his birth. Also he has no experience of managing a club, let alone an international one. Let him earn his spurs at a non-league team, by doing something to prove that he is the man for the job. By say, taking Merthyr into the Football League. Something along those lines. Or let him feck up at a premier league team, which I am sure he would. Go on Giggs take over at Man Ure and bring 'em down to he Championship!
    He’s also a bit of a c’nt as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas View Post
    Pulis for me, with young assistant to bring through. If Chris Coleman can achieve what he did, then Pulis with his experience will do for me.
    Pulis for me too.
    Never had a huge budget to work with, tactically astute & knows how to get the best out of what he's got.
    Ironically we would need him to fail at WB and get the boot first!

    At 100/1 Robbie Savage worth a £1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bob Banker Spanker View Post
    He’s also a bit of a c’nt as well.
    Just a bit he is a total cnut

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    Wait for Zinedine Zidane to get the boot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    Noooooooooooooo, anyone but Giggs. He showed no passion or commitment whatsoever. He could have been an inspirational type of figure for up n' coming younger players. Instead he was lazy and half-arsed about playing for the country of his birth. Also he has no experience of managing a club, let alone an international one. Let him earn his spurs at a non-league team, by doing something to prove that he is the man for the job. By say, taking Merthyr into the Football League. Something along those lines. Or let him feck up at a premier league team, which I am sure he would. Go on Giggs take over at Man Ure and bring 'em down to he Championship!
    Did Hughes or speed have any experience?

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    Given That Bale is fast becoming a crock that is continually injured, I would give him the job!!

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    Haha who's going to put a tenner on Ray Wilkins. Feck me. Owen Coyle..a fiver each way please Bet Fred. I don't think it will be anybody on that list and if it is then look no further than Giggs. Thierry Henry has to be in with a shout. The FAW know him. They have got the last 2 appointment s right in hindsight. Despite initial negativity against Coleman including me. Interesting to see who's next. I should be on that list at 66/1 given that I won the everything on football manager with City last year.

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    Which wagg at the office put Martin O"Neill on there. What they saying down you're way Maxim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Can’t believe the bitterness toward Giggs. Ok. He never turned up for his country on many an occasion, but neither do the fans. He has no managerial experience, but knows the game inside out. I’d rather have him in charge, than a foreigner any day.
    There are a solid hardcore of fans that turned up. Time and time again bought their tickets. I have no footballing ability so i did all i could for Wales and bought tickets. Ryan Giggs had all the ability in the world, he just couldn't be bothered for Wales. Its hard to respect him for that. There is a large section of Welsh fans that simply do not like Giggs.

    The younger element and the part time fans will love him for his past, and for the prestige.

    I get the impression from the players of the time that they do not like Giggs. There are not direct comments but there is something there. Players like Bellamy, Gabbidon, Gunter and Ledley have all made comments that hint that Giggs was not popular.

    I get the impression that Giggs is quite a selfish person. You have to be to be as successful individual as a footballer and to have a career as he has done, but this often doesnt translate into management. I cannot see him buying into a together stronger mentality which has seen us do so well. He certainly cannot go to the group of players and demand commitment, because he as an example didnt commit.

    We have seen time and time again that the players who worked under Ferguson, do not necessarily make good managers. You have the suggestion that because football comes to easy to them that they cannot understand players who have lesser ability (a suggestion labelled at Roy Keane).

    Personally i have seen nothing in Giggs that suggest that he will be a good manager. He isnt even an insightful pundit.

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    In addition, giggs has never come across as articulate or inspiring.

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    Many players retire from international football to prolong a club career. (I know giggs didn't retire, thought I'd add that as there are a few smart arses on here who jump on any comment like it's a naked porn star)

    Given how long giggs was at the top level of the game, he may have made the wrong choice for Wales fans, but by not playing too often for Wales maybe he helped prolong his club career.

    Let the past go lads.

    No wonder there are so many people with scrunched up faces in the valleys, if something years on still angers you.

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    Giggs in the last few weeks signed a consultancy role with Vietnam for two years.

    Having the Welsh role would be a conflict of interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Many players retire from international football to prolong a club career. (I know giggs didn't retire, thought I'd add that as there are a few smart arses on here who jump on any comment like it's a naked porn star)

    Given how long giggs was at the top level of the game, he may have made the wrong choice for Wales fans, but by not playing too often for Wales maybe he helped prolong his club career.

    Let the past go lads.

    No wonder there are so many people with scrunched up faces in the valleys, if something years on still angers you.
    There is no argument that Giggs made the right decision for his career. There was more glory at Manchester United than Wales. He is a Manchester United legend.

    However that came to the detriment of his Welsh career, you cannot expect then Welsh fans to hold him in high esteem for that.

    Welsh fans will give a Hughes or a Speed a bit of time to gain experience because they have earnt that respect off the fans. Giggs has neither that respect or a track record.

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    Bellamy moving up ..

    Ryan Giggs 4/5
    Tony Pulis 4/1
    Craig Bellamy 10/1
    Kenny Jackett 12/1
    Mark Hughes 16/1

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    Quote Originally Posted by qccfc View Post
    There is no argument that Giggs made the right decision for his career. There was more glory at Manchester United than Wales. He is a Manchester United legend.

    However that came to the detriment of his Welsh career, you cannot expect then Welsh fans to hold him in high esteem for that.

    Welsh fans will give a Hughes or a Speed a bit of time to gain experience because they have earnt that respect off the fans. Giggs has neither that respect or a track record.
    I agree he will never had respect from Wales fans, he had a choice and he made it. I for one don't have an issue with it really. You make your money playing for your club, if he was to do the same at a lesser club and not turn up I'd have to question him the way others on here do..but he was winning trophy after trophy at the highest level. He chose that, Bale has chosen to turn out for Wales. I don't see bale having as long a career, but he will have a proud Wales career to talk about in years to come, and good for him. Each to their own.

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    Bellamy, Lagerback or that NI manager.
    Wouldn't be arsed if Henry got it either. Players are there...

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    Blue in the Face
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    A bit weird how Carl Robinson is not on the betting list. I'd have him as second most likely to get the job. If not favourite.

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    I think it will be Bellamy or Giggs.

    The fact Souness is 33/1 on that list is laughable.

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