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    Re: A fairer Britain under the Tories?

    This body was set up in the coaltion driven by Nick Clegg who in my view was a decent MP (certainly better fan the one who beat him ).

    I thought the coalition was a better body than what we have now, it brought in the poplar triple lock , raised personal allowances for the lower paid, bet fell foul of the right wing and the ridiculous decesion to hold the Brexit vote

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    It's only a crisis if she really cares about it. Helping the jams sounds good in you're first speech. Taking ideas from Gove, Johnson and Hammond will soon put pay to that. The fact that a corpse like Reece Mog is mentioned as a possible successor and has a backing tells me all I need to know about social mobility from the conservative party.

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    Hang on AndreW Marr is having a seance on his programme this morning and they have managed to make contact with Reece Mog. He can appear for 10 mins he says before the portal to the 17th century closes, 15 mins if he is allowed to defend Damien Green and modestly brush aside rumours that he will be the next prime minister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    “The worst position in politics is to set out a proposition that you’re going to heal social divisions and then do nothing about it. It’s almost better never to say that you’ll do anything about it."

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    Inequality will widen and worsen. Makes no difference what political party holds sway in the Commons as the square mile down the road from there sets policy. To grow profits the cost inputs (wages and benefits) will decline. Universal Credit is primarily about reducing the handouts of those in employment.

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    ^^
    As you say in your first sentence, you haven't followed the story. You could have left it there eh?

    But we get half a page of pointless Party Political ranting, while Social inequality rages on around you.

    During your rant, you forgot to mention the Rt Hon Baroness Shepherd (Conservative) and the apparently neutral Paul Gregg (Professor of Economic and Social Policy and Director of the Centre for Analysis of Social Policy, University of Bath) and David Johnston (Chief Executive of the Social Mobility Foundation) all elected to quit also.

    Who the hell is surprised that any politician has had a couple of other 'well paid positions' in his/her time?
    jeez, where would we start with that one?!

    We are none of us genius, even though a few 'round here' seem to pretend to be, but FFS read the story before launching on a party-political rant?

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42218682

    I’ll leave this story here. A fairer Britain under the Torries. Never, never, ever.

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    The Tories are lower than vermin. A.Bevan.

    Says all you need to know.

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    ninianclark you run your own LTD company and you pay income tax and NI contributions on your turnover !

    you must be the first who does !!!

    pretty sure most pay themselves just under the threshold of paying PAYE and NI contributions and taking out dividends instead just leaving corporation tax and dividend tax when that nasty letter comes from HMRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    ninianclark you run your own LTD company and you pay income tax and NI contributions on your turnover !

    you must be the first who does !!!

    pretty sure most pay themselves just under the threshold of paying PAYE and NI contributions and taking out dividends instead just leaving corporation tax and dividend tax when that nasty letter comes from HMRC
    Exactly! Any self employed person who says they’ve never evaded tax is telling porkies.

    And they are usually the ones who call anyone who falls on hard times scroungers.

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    Ps I dont apologies for anyone - apart from maybe your parents, they have my sympathy for bring up such a rude child.[/QUOTE]

    You should take that back. You pulled me for calling Boris a nonce n I said fair enough. Be a gentleman Clarkey boy.

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    I've worked all my life I have very close family members whom have sucked on social benefits and free housing for most of there life, andbwell enjoyed it , terrible country we live in good job they dont live in the USA , Spain etc where's its very tough and accountable .

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I've worked all my life I have very close family members whom have sucked on social benefits and free housing for most of there life, andbwell enjoyed it , terrible country we live in good job they dont live in the USA , Spain etc where's its very tough and accountable .
    Spoken like a man that's never had to live off benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecity View Post
    Spoken like a man that's never had to live off benefits.
    Indeed I left school with little qualification and decided to look for any work and hours, no matter what shape it came in , even if it was close to the benefit model I'm sure a lot of folk do require genuine benefit and help ,however my point is our country gets a slagging off when its paying out 29 billion pa. Other countries treat their poor folk much worse.

    I'm not saying it's right just saying we do input a hefty figure .

    Trouble is we dont have mechanism to force those who are work shy into work , hence the need for cheaper foreign Labour to perform anti social hours jobs, in cleaning, catering ,hotel work farming,or fast food outlets .

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Indeed I left school with little qualification and decided to look for any work and hours, no matter what shape it came in , even if it was close to the benefit model I'm sure a lot of folk do require genuine benefit and help ,however my point is our country gets a slagging off when its paying out 29 billion pa. Other countries treat their poor folk much worse.

    I'm not saying it's right just saying we do input a hefty figure .

    Trouble is we dont have mechanism to force those who are work shy into work , hence the need for cheaper foreign Labour to perform anti social hours jobs, in cleaning, catering ,hotel work farming,or fast food outlets .
    Other countries treat their folk much worse

    And of course it’s all those poor peoples fault in it

    128,000 children homeless

    1,000,000 + food emergency food parcels distributed in a year

    120,000 austerity linked deaths

    134% increase in rough sleeping

    8,000,000 people living in poverty

    Public services decimated

    And it’s all the fault of those bastard claiming benefits

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    It's just the notion that living off benefits is easy. Made worse by Tory propaganda and benefit porn programmes on the telly where cameras follow someone on benefits n they play up to the cameras. Good for you in doing well life on mars it's a good thing. I just don't think people 'sucking' up benefits are having the time of it some people think.

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    Good to see that Damian Green has now departed. The more this Govt is damaged the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Good to see that Damian Green has now departed. The more this Govt is damaged the better.
    Indeed, re first point.

    But re second point - No longer a good time to have the distraction of a damaged Gov't perhaps.

    A non-party-political coalition would be a superb option now.
    Not going to happen as we know. Besides, majority of entrenched, partisan Britons would likely rather shoot themselves in the collective foot than even consider it.

    I fear that we are nowhere near as smart as the average brexiteer seems to somehow think we are.

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    Re: A fairer Britain under the Tories?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vimto View Post
    Indeed, re first point.

    But re second point - No longer a good time to have the distraction of a damaged Gov't perhaps.

    A non-party-political coalition would be a superb option now.
    Not going to happen as we know. Besides, majority of entrenched, partisan Britons would likely rather shoot themselves in the collective foot than even consider it.

    I fear that we are nowhere near as smart as the average brexiteer seems to somehow think we are.
    I don’t trust any of the fools in high office. May, Fox, Davis, Johnson etc etc. Dreadful politicians.
    There are a few decent Tories like Ken Clark and Sarah Woolaston. However they are outnumbered by the hard right morons like Rees-Mogg
    The sooner they get kicked out the better.

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    Re: A fairer Britain under the Tories?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Good to see that Damian Green has now departed. The more this Govt is damaged the better.

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    A fairer Britain under the Tories

    http://metro.co.uk/2017/12/20/woman-...-cuts-7174470/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    Other countries treat their folk much worse

    And of course it’s all those poor peoples fault in it

    128,000 children homeless

    1,000,000 + food emergency food parcels distributed in a year

    120,000 austerity linked deaths

    134% increase in rough sleeping

    8,000,000 people living in poverty

    Public services decimated

    And it’s all the fault of those bastard claiming benefits
    This government is worse than Thatcher's

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    Re: A fairer Britain under the Tories?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    This government is worse than Thatcher's
    Steady on , that twisted mean ole cuunt , stole my milk
    surely this mob are not as bad
    as that cuunt

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    Re: A fairer Britain under the Tories?

    The country population and need for everything to be free at the point of access is the issue.

    Yes you could fund it all , borroe or tax tge rich more , open the borders and make hay , however be ready for no future for your grandchildren , this goverment is poor the coalition was okay, neither of them, or any Tory government compares with Thatcher thats madness , and we had fair less folk to care for when she got nasty.

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