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    Ronaldo wins ballon d'Or for the fifth time...

    Level with Lionel Messi now, five times each. Always fancied seeing Gareth Bale picking this up, but my hopes are fading. Not sure how valid it is anyway with not one Wolves player being nominated. N'Golo Kante highest placed Premier League player at eighth, Harry Kane highest placed British player at tenth.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42269979

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    If you win the champions league then you'll win it then because there's no way he was the best player

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    Great comback by Ronaldo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elytillidie View Post
    Always fancied seeing Gareth Bale picking this up, but my hopes are fading.
    He'll always be second fiddle at Real Madrid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieccfc View Post
    If you win the champions league then you'll win it then because there's no way he was the best player
    Get real Jamie. They win the league, and champions league, and he’s their best player. Deserved winner.

    Did you not see the goals he scored in the champions league QF and SF?’!?!?

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    Re: Ronaldo wins ballon d'Or for the fifth time...

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Get real Jamie. They win the league, and champions league, and he’s their best player. Deserved winner.

    Did you not see the goals he scored in the champions league QF and SF?’!?!?
    He played well in a few games granted they were big games but no chance was he the best player in the world this past year I don't even think he was real Madrid best player but just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieccfc View Post
    He played well in a few games granted they were big games but no chance was he the best player in the world this past year I don't even think he was real Madrid best player but just my opinion
    Who do you say should have won it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Who do you say should have won it?
    it would be easy to pick Messi but he didn't win the trophies and didn't score against juventus twice so that apparently puts him out of the question honestly watching real Madrid I thought Marcelo was their best player but he's a defender so has no chance in this day and age Harry Kane finishing 10th is also a joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieccfc View Post
    it would be easy to pick Messi but he didn't win the trophies and didn't score against juventus twice so that apparently puts him out of the question honestly watching real Madrid I thought Marcelo was their best player but he's a defender so has no chance in this day and age Harry Kane finishing 10th is also a joke
    And a hat trick in the semi against Atletico, 5 (hat trick and a double) in the quarter finals against Bayern.

    Ive seen some ridiculous arguments against Ronaldo because people dont like him but this one takes the piss.

    He led Madrid to La Liga and Champions League honours, scoring an obscene amount of goals in the toughest, biggest games of the season. A more deserving winner of a Ballon D'or you could not wish to find.

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    Re: Ronaldo wins ballon d'Or for the fifth time...

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Get real Jamie. They win the league, and champions league, and he’s their best player. Deserved winner.

    Did you not see the goals he scored in the champions league QF and SF?’!?!?
    Absolute garbage this season

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehumblegringo View Post
    Absolute garbage this season
    Only 9 goals in the CL so far!


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    Re: Ronaldo wins ballon d'Or for the fifth time...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Only 9 goals in the CL so far!

    How many has he scored in the league?

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    Re: Ronaldo wins ballon d'Or for the fifth time...

    Quote Originally Posted by jamieccfc View Post
    How many has he scored in the league?
    You don't get the Ballon d'Or for winning the league.

    Top European Cup/UEFA Champions League scorers (including qualifying rounds)

    115: Cristiano Ronaldo (POR, Manchester United, Real Madrid)
    97: Lionel Messi (ARG, Barcelona)
    71: Raúl González (ESP, Real Madrid)
    60: Ruud van Nistelrooy (NED, PSV Eindhoven, Manchester United, Real Madrid)
    59: Andriy Shevchenko (UKR, Dynamo Kyiv, AC Milan, Chelsea)


    UEFA Champions League top scorers by season (group stage to final)

    2016/17: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 12
    2015/16: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 16
    2014/15: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid), Lionel Messi (Barcelona), Neymar (Barcelona) – 10
    2013/14: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 17
    2012/13: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 12
    2011/12: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 14
    2010/11: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 12
    2009/10: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 8
    2008/09: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 9
    2007/08: Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United) – 8


    Champions League top scorers 2017-18

    Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) - 9
    Roberto Firmino (Liverpool ) - 6
    Neymar (PSG) - 6
    Harry Kane (Tottenham) - 6
    Edinson Cavani (PSG) - 6
    Wissam Ben Yedder (Sevilla) - 6
    Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool) - 5
    Vincent Aboukabar (Porto) - 5
    Mohamed Salah (Man City) - 5

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    Re: Ronaldo wins ballon d'Or for the fifth time...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You don't get the Ballon d'Or for winning the league.

    Top European Cup/UEFA Champions League scorers (including qualifying rounds)

    115: Cristiano Ronaldo (POR, Manchester United, Real Madrid)
    97: Lionel Messi (ARG, Barcelona)
    71: Raúl González (ESP, Real Madrid)
    60: Ruud van Nistelrooy (NED, PSV Eindhoven, Manchester United, Real Madrid)
    59: Andriy Shevchenko (UKR, Dynamo Kyiv, AC Milan, Chelsea)


    UEFA Champions League top scorers by season (group stage to final)

    2016/17: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 12
    2015/16: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 16
    2014/15: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid), Lionel Messi (Barcelona), Neymar (Barcelona) – 10
    2013/14: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 17
    2012/13: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 12
    2011/12: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 14
    2010/11: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 12
    2009/10: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 8
    2008/09: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 9
    2007/08: Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United) – 8


    Champions League top scorers 2017-18

    Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) - 9
    Roberto Firmino (Liverpool ) - 6
    Neymar (PSG) - 6
    Harry Kane (Tottenham) - 6
    Edinson Cavani (PSG) - 6
    Wissam Ben Yedder (Sevilla) - 6
    Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool) - 5
    Vincent Aboukabar (Porto) - 5
    Mohamed Salah (Man City) - 5
    I don't get what you're trying to prove? Top scorer in champions league = best player in the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehumblegringo View Post
    Absolute garbage this season
    I doubt the first 3 months of the season counted much to his Ballon Dor mate. His performance in the business end of last season was phenomenal

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    Definitely deserved it. It was 4-1 Messi at one point, and he's pulled it back to 5-5. I prefer Messi but you cannot knock cristiano. One of the greatest of all time.

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    Re: Ronaldo wins ballon d'Or for the fifth time...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You don't get the Ballon d'Or for winning the league.

    Top European Cup/UEFA Champions League scorers (including qualifying rounds)

    115: Cristiano Ronaldo (POR, Manchester United, Real Madrid)
    97: Lionel Messi (ARG, Barcelona)
    71: Raúl González (ESP, Real Madrid)
    60: Ruud van Nistelrooy (NED, PSV Eindhoven, Manchester United, Real Madrid)
    59: Andriy Shevchenko (UKR, Dynamo Kyiv, AC Milan, Chelsea)


    UEFA Champions League top scorers by season (group stage to final)

    2016/17: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 12
    2015/16: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 16
    2014/15: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid), Lionel Messi (Barcelona), Neymar (Barcelona) – 10
    2013/14: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 17
    2012/13: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 12
    2011/12: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 14
    2010/11: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 12
    2009/10: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 8
    2008/09: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 9
    2007/08: Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United) – 8


    Champions League top scorers 2017-18

    Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) - 9
    Roberto Firmino (Liverpool ) - 6
    Neymar (PSG) - 6
    Harry Kane (Tottenham) - 6
    Edinson Cavani (PSG) - 6
    Wissam Ben Yedder (Sevilla) - 6
    Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool) - 5
    Vincent Aboukabar (Porto) - 5
    Mohamed Salah (Man City) - 5

    Obviously the only stat that matters to you is scoring goals.
    If you've actually watched any Real Madrid games this season then you will see that Ronaldo looks more of the pace than Alex Revell!

    Against Nicosia Real Madrid went 4-0 up at half time without Ronaldo scoring then proceeded to pass the ball to him at every opportunity just to enhance his bruised ego as is the case with him these days.

    It's pathetic and goes against the grain of everything I have learned about football.

    He is missing chance after chance for Real in La Liga but for some reason the players keep feeding him when other players are in better positions amd this has been to the detriment of his team.

    If someone else scores he is never happy. He is like a pathetic school kid.

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    And to think some people call him arrogant......



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    Re: Ronaldo wins ballon d'Or for the fifth time...

    If it's stats you're interested in Messi 2017 had

    Most Goals
    Most Assists
    Most Chances Created
    Most Successful Dribbles
    Most Through Balls
    Most Key Passes
    Most Man of the Matches


    It's not his fault he has Vidal, Turan and Denis Suarez while Ronaldo had Isco, Modric and Kroos behind him!

    Barcelona wouldn't even have qualified for the champions league last year without him and they certainly wouldn't be top of La Liga now. Whereas one could argue that Real Madrid are playing badly because of Ronaldo this season cos all he wants to do is fecking shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehumblegringo View Post
    If it's stats you're interested in Messi 2017 had

    Most Goals
    Most Assists
    Most Chances Created
    Most Successful Dribbles
    Most Through Balls
    Most Key Passes
    Most Man of the Matches


    It's not his fault he has Vidal, Turan and Denis Suarez while Ronaldo had Isco, Modric and Kroos behind him!

    Barcelona wouldn't even have qualified for the champions league last year without him and they certainly wouldn't be top of La Liga now. Whereas one could argue that Real Madrid are playing badly because of Ronaldo this season cos all he wants to do is fecking shoot.
    Youll be pulling up average scores from whoscored.com next Roathie

    If we are going to start basing it on quality of team mates and make allowances for them then neither Messi or Ronaldo win it.

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    Re: Ronaldo wins ballon d'Or for the fifth time...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You don't get the Ballon d'Or for winning the league.

    Top European Cup/UEFA Champions League scorers (including qualifying rounds)

    115: Cristiano Ronaldo (POR, Manchester United, Real Madrid)
    97: Lionel Messi (ARG, Barcelona)
    71: Raúl González (ESP, Real Madrid)
    60: Ruud van Nistelrooy (NED, PSV Eindhoven, Manchester United, Real Madrid)
    59: Andriy Shevchenko (UKR, Dynamo Kyiv, AC Milan, Chelsea)


    UEFA Champions League top scorers by season (group stage to final)

    2016/17: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 12
    2015/16: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 16
    2014/15: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid), Lionel Messi (Barcelona), Neymar (Barcelona) – 10
    2013/14: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 17
    2012/13: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 12
    2011/12: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 14
    2010/11: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 12
    2009/10: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 8
    2008/09: Lionel Messi (Barcelona) – 9
    2007/08: Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United) – 8


    Champions League top scorers 2017-18

    Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) - 9
    Roberto Firmino (Liverpool ) - 6
    Neymar (PSG) - 6
    Harry Kane (Tottenham) - 6
    Edinson Cavani (PSG) - 6
    Wissam Ben Yedder (Sevilla) - 6
    Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool) - 5
    Vincent Aboukabar (Porto) - 5
    Mohamed Salah (Man City) - 5
    No. But the original point was he's been garbage this year. By his standards he has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    No. But the original point was he's been garbage this year. By his standards he has.
    Just goes to show even though he's garbage he became the first player to score in every CL group game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    No. But the original point was he's been garbage this year. By his standards he has.
    I think garbage is stretching it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Just goes to show even though he's garbage he became the first player to score in every CL group game.
    Liverpool have scored 23 goals in the group's. It's no good till the knock outs.

    Ronaldo is their main player, it's almost a given if they score he will be one of them..

    He's a class act. Not been at it this season no matter how many fancy stats you chuck at it.

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