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Thread: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

  1. #51

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Equating a couple of kicks to burning someone house down is the same as equating someone being called fat to being called a n*gger.
    Oh ffs. That's not what I was doing, I was reacting to Sludge's preposterous statement that the man "deserves everything he gets".

    Stop being such a snowflake for 5 seconds. Yeah, I said snowflake.

  2. #52

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    You said we couldn't be reasoned with but you want take anything onboard other than it's just words.

    Surely you can see the black people still don't have an equal footing today even in this country and many people do think of them as lesser humans due to the colour of their skin. By calling someone a n*gger youre agreeing with that world view. It isn't a word that just comes out by accident or mistake either.
    Look, the bottom line is, someone doesn't get to physically assault someone because of things they've said. The law even backs that up, thankfully, considering the insane opinions in this thread.

  3. #53

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    So in your book there's no excuse for racism in the form of name calling but you can easily justify kicking the shit out of someone? That's some messed up logic son.
    To any idiot who thinks it's just name calling , why don't you put your money where your mouth is and go down to butetown and if you see a group of black guys , call them nggrs ?

    You can argue that's it's just name calling and that they are very nasty chaps and they shouldn't be horrible to you

    Good luck with that

    Goodnight

  4. #54

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    I could say the exact same thing to you, how can people think someone deserve a kicking based on words they've said?
    It isn't just words though is it it's the implication behind those words based on hundreds of years of slavery, slaughtering and abuse and the fact that black people are less likely to get a job and more likely to be stopped by police simply because of the colour of their skin.

    By calling someone that you are basically reinforcing all that. It's difficult for us to understand, I've never had to put up with anything like that but you need to understand it isn't just a word that's way too black and white a way to look at it, it's far more complicated than that.

    I can completely see where you're coming from though, but I don't understand why anyone would ever say that word either. Even if it's in a temper the person must have that in the front of their mind already.

  5. #55

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Look, the bottom line is, someone doesn't get to physically assault someone because of things they've said. The law even backs that up, thankfully, considering the insane opinions in this thread.
    Again with the physical assault faux outrage.
    It was a football match, he got a yellow card ffs
    It happened five years ago.

    Methinks you’re a little bit bored and lloking for an argument for the sake of it tbh

  6. #56

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Look, the bottom line is, someone doesn't get to physically assault someone because of things they've said. The law even backs that up, thankfully, considering the insane opinions in this thread.
    The law also backs up that racial abuse is a lot more than just words too though.

  7. #57

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    "You are a snowflake for thinking ****** is any more than just a word" - man who calls a few small kicks on a football pitch assault.

  8. #58

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    To any idiot who thinks it's just name calling , why don't you put your money where your mouth is and go down to butetown and if you see a group of black guys , call them nggrs ?

    You can argue that's it's just name calling and that they are very nasty chaps and they shouldn't be horrible to you

    Good luck with that

    Goodnight
    I won't be doing that, Sludge, because I'm not a racist. Does it matter to you at all that you've offended me by suggesting as much? No, didn't think so, my feelings don't matter do they?

  9. #59

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    Again with the physical assault faux outrage.
    It was a football match, he got a yellow card ffs
    It happened five years ago.

    Methinks you’re a little bit bored and lloking for an argument for the sake of it tbh
    You need to look up the definition of outrage and assault because I'm not sure you know what either means.

  10. #60

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    The law also backs up that racial abuse is a lot more than just words too though.
    They are just words. Sure they're words with weight behind them but they are just words.

    Assault (or battery, to more accurate for you and TH63) is not an acceptable response to words.

    Having your feelings hurt does not give you carte blanche to hurt someone physically and anyone that says otherwise is an idiot, frankly.

  11. #61

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    So in your book there's no excuse for racism in the form of name calling but you can easily justify kicking the shit out of someone? That's some messed up logic son.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    I won't be doing that, Sludge, because I'm not a racist. Does it matter to you at all that you've offended me by suggesting as much? No, didn't think so, my feelings don't matter do they?
    I have no idea if you are a racist or not but you think the use of the word nggr is just name calling

    If you think that , then go down to butetown or grangetown and test out your theory

    Do you think black people's feelings are hurt by the use of the word nggr ?

    Go and find out

  12. #62

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    So in your book there's no excuse for racism in the form of name calling but you can easily justify kicking the shit out of someone? That's some messed up logic son.
    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    Again with the physical assault faux outrage.
    It was a football match, he got a yellow card ffs
    It happened five years ago.

    Methinks you’re a little bit bored and lloking for an argument for the sake of it tbh
    Isn't he just

  13. #63

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    I can't see much wrong with the tackle. A boot up the balls on a football pitch for something you wouldn't say to him in the pub seems about right. Better than a pool ball in the mush.

  14. #64

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I have no idea if you are a racist or not but you think the use of the word nggr is just name calling

    If you think that , then go down to butetown or grangetown and test out your theory

    Do you think black people's feelings are hurt by the use of the word nggr ?

    Go and find out
    OK Sludge, I think I see where you're having trouble understanding what's happening here so I'll help you out.

    I am aware that words have different meanings attached to them, it's what allows us as human to communicate with each other.

    I'm also aware that some words have unsavoury meanings to them.

    I'm also aware that some people wrongly think that it's OK to hurt someone physically if certain words are said to them.

    Obviously I'm someone that has a different opinion to you so you're trying your best to get me to do something that would see me physically harmed because that's how people like you like to treat people with differing opinions.

  15. #65

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Emre probably learned more from that match than from his three game ban.

  16. #66

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Isn't he just
    You and TH63 cannot believe that someone would have a different opinion to you to the point where you just pass me off as "looking for an argument"

    Bear in mind it's you two who are of the opinion that physically harming someone is justifiable if they say certain words You could not make it up.

  17. #67

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    So in your book there's no excuse for racism in the form of name calling but you can easily justify kicking the shit out of someone? That's some messed up logic son.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    OK Sludge, I think I see where you're having trouble understanding what's happening here so I'll help you out.

    I am aware that words have different meanings attached to them, it's what allows us as human to communicate with each other.

    I'm also aware that some words have unsavoury meanings to them.

    I'm also aware that some people wrongly think that it's OK to hurt someone physically if certain words are said to them.

    Obviously I'm someone that has a different opinion to you so you're trying your best to get me to do something that would see me physically harmed because that's how people like you like to treat people with differing opinions.
    That's an incredible conclusion , you are off your head

    As I say if you think it's just name calling , test out your theory

    I am not really interested

  18. #68

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    So in your book there's no excuse for racism in the form of name calling but you can easily justify kicking the shit out of someone? That's some messed up logic son.
    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Emre probably learned more from that match than from his three game ban.
    Aye , act like a racist fecker and face the consequences

    No sympathy for him at all

  19. #69

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Aye , act like a racist fecker and face the consequences

    No sympathy for him at all
    The consequences being legal action rather than a kicking, at least for those of us in the grown up world.

  20. #70

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    That's an incredible conclusion , you are off your head

    As I say if you think it's just name calling , test out your theory

    I am not really interested
    Yeah, you keep saying you're not interested Sludge...

  21. #71

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    So in your book there's no excuse for racism in the form of name calling but you can easily justify kicking the shit out of someone? That's some messed up logic son.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    You and TH63 cannot believe that someone would have a different opinion to you to the point where you just pass me off as "looking for an argument"

    Bear in mind it's you two who are of the opinion that physically harming someone is justifiable if they say certain words You could not make it up.
    You are entitled to your opinion

    I just think having watched that video you are talking nonsense

  22. #72

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    So in your book there's no excuse for racism in the form of name calling but you can easily justify kicking the shit out of someone? That's some messed up logic son.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Yeah, you keep saying you're not interested Sludge...
    It's difficult as you are behaving like a child

    Now go to bed and watch out for the monsters in the cupboard

  23. #73

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    So in your book there's no excuse for racism in the form of name calling but you can easily justify kicking the shit out of someone? That's some messed up logic son.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    The consequences being legal action rather than a kicking, at least for those of us in the grown up world.
    The old bill are often given a bad rap but if some idiots approached a black guy in Cardiff , racially abused him and ended up getting a slap , I don't think they would launch a major operation to send the offender to prison

    That's just a theory but one I tend to agree with

  24. #74

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    You are entitled to your opinion

    I just think having watched that video you are talking nonsense
    No, he just "got what was coming to him" didn't he Sludge? Such an insidious opinion, unfortunately a lot of people seem to agree with you.

  25. #75

    Re: Emre racially abusing Didier Zokora and getting what was coming to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    It's difficult as you are behaving like a child

    Now go to bed and watch out for the monsters in the cupboard
    You're the one advocating giving someone a beating for saying bad words and I'm the child?

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