Oh Jesus H Christ. Like you've never resorted to abuse when someone has a different opinion to you. Deary me.Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi
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Oh Jesus H Christ. Like you've never resorted to abuse when someone has a different opinion to you. Deary me.
Behave in your local and play up when you go elsewhere on the piss...he's only here to act a clown.
Someone slapped your missus arse when your out, what do you do?
I'll answer that if you can explain to me how it's relevant.
It's more than name calling it's pure ignorant hatred you can say it's only words all you want but it's much more than that.
It is name calling though. Nasty names with weight behind them, but name calling nonetheless.
Your trying to say he shouldn't have kicked him..emre offended him so he lashed out.
Would you lash out if someone offended you?
I'll go a bit further, **** it, someone walks past you and your kid and calls them a ****. It's just a word. Do you walk on?
(Used **** just to slap the point across a bit)
I don't know how I'd react in either of those situations.
What I do know is that if I was to lash out violently I would be in the wrong unless I was trying to protect myself or my kid/wife from physical harm.
If I did lash out, say kicking someone in the bollocks for example, I doubt I'd have the Internet cheering me on and I'd fully expect to be prosecuted by the law for assault and battery, possibly GBH. The police certainly wouldn't take "but he called me a name" as an excuse and rightly so.
It's does it a disservice calling it that.
A lot of bullying is only name calling but has lead to depression and suicide. Saying it's only name calling is an antiquated notion in my opinion, in the long term name calling can have just as much an effect as any sort of violence.
And is there much worse you can call someone that n*gger? Showing utter distain and disrespect for someone and seeing them as a lesser person based on the colour of their skin?
I agree, it's a terrible name to call someone.
Doesn't give the person carte blanche to physically assault someone though, does it?
The thing is, because CC thinks that name calling is harmless (and I speak from the vantage point of being called a faggot by him, among many other things, purely because I have a viewpoint that differs from him). And, because he thinks it is harmless, therefore it is harmless.
Calling someone a **** is just harmless name calling.
Calling someone a effing N****r is just harmless name calling
Callings someone a fat tw@t is just harmless name calling.
It's all purely harmless. Until, the person at the receiving end decides to retaliate. Then it's no longer harmless - then the instigator is the victim.
Or, until the person at the receiving end goes home and locks themselves in their room to avoid being called names. CC lacks empathy, he sees the world through just his own eyes and if someone is offended at something he doesn't find offensive, then they are flawed. This is the perverse logic being applied.
Remember, Emre was fouled and decided his retaliation would be to use a racist insult. Zokora and his team mates decided that they had to take their own form of retribution.
I wonder if, say, the Reading centre-half calls Hoilett an effing N****r on Monday, and the Cardiff players decide to respond in the same way as Zokora's team mates responded, would CC deem it great team-spirit, or scandalous. Judging him purely on the different degrees of hypocrisy he has demonstrated in this thread, and in his own unsavoury behaviour over the years, I suspect I know the answer.
No it doesn't give carte blanche but a he got a couple of kicks up the arse and he had been asking for it.
I'm sure you're able to convince yourself that's a progressive opinion to hold.
Give over mate.
It's not as black and white as that.
If I called you a wanker repeatedly in front of your family and you lashed out, yes you'd get charged, but any reasonable person could justify it.
Imagine the chaos if the world was actually the way you think it is.
If they had broken his legs or knocked his teeth out or had all surrounded him on the floor kicking him I'd have said different but they give him a couple of hard kicks during a football match because he'd racially abused one of their team mates.
You seem to be having trouble aggregating things. Like calling there is a spectrum of name calling just as there is a spectrum of violence. You wouldn't get charged with assault for booting someone up the arse in the street just as you wouldn't be charged for calling someone a fat git.
So a kick in the bollocks is a fine retort for calling some a racial name in your book?
And I'm the one "having trouble aggregating things"?
I don't convince myself that it's falling in line with anything. That's just my opinion that racism is bad and you're asking for it.
Actions have consequences hence why free speech works. You can't say what you want with carte blanche either.
And what way do I think it is?
If i call you a **** I deserve a slap.
Call someone ****** they deserve a slap.
Well thankfully I (and the law) disagree with you.
Emre could have said other names but he chose the most offensive one. Expect the most offencive action back. He got off lightly
Yeah, a kick in the nuts is getting off lightly. He should have been burned at the stake for calling him that nasty name.
How Zokora was able to remain standing after being called that, what with all the weight of history behind it is a testament to how strong he is. Most people would have crumpled to the ground holding their sides in agony after hearing words like that.
Yep completely fine. Just as I wouldn't be against someone getting punched for calling someone a fat **** or slapped for calling someone a slut.
You can't wander through life saying what you want with no consequence.
Yes, this is why we have the law.
As far as being called fat or a slut, luckily most adults can just shake that kind of childish name calling off rather than getting embroiled in violence over something so trivial.
But, some people cannot. So, is that their problem?
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