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    Roy Moore

    The establishment have thrown the kitchen sink at him in one of the dirtiest elections in decades, and now the people decide.

    Whatever the press are saying, the outcome will boil down to a choice between economic nationalism v globalisation and the stakes couldn't be higher.

    Last I heard he was behind in the polls, so there is no favourite in this race.

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The establishment have thrown the kitchen sink at him in one of the dirtiest elections in decades, and now the people decide. Whatever the press are saying, the outcome willing boil down to economic nationalism v globalisation and the stakes couldn't be higher.

    Last I heard he was behind in the polls, so it should be pretty close.
    Is that the same establishment that rightly threw the kitchen sink at Weinstein. I know you have not been following this closely but if you had you might be better placed and feel a bit cleaner being able to call out a scumbag regardless of the political clothes they wear. Getting elected or not doesn't change that.

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Is that the same establishment that rightly threw the kitchen sink at Weinstein. I know you have not been following this closely but if you had you might be better placed and feel a bit cleaner being able to call out a scumbag regardless of the political clothes they wear. Getting elected or not doesn't change that.
    It's not for me to say, the good people of Alabama will decide the outcome. Moore is going to be tried in the court of puplic opinion on the available facts, and that is a good thing.

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It's not for me to say, the good people of Alabama will decide the outcome. Moore is going to be tried in the court of puplic opinion on the available facts, and that is a good thing.
    It's not a jury of 12 fair people though is it? Whoever said that a chimpanzee could be elected if it was nominated as a candidate for Labour in a general election would have this with knobs on for a Republican in a Alabama. The fact that you are staging some kind of drama says it all about what a scumbag Moore is if you think that this was not a slam dunk after Sessions left! Don't confuse that for some kind of moral clearance though as you tie your colours to his mast!

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    It's not a jury of 12 fair people though is it? Whoever said that a chimpanzee could be elected if it was nominated as a candidate for Labour in a general election would have this with knobs on for a Republican in a Alabama. The fact that you are staging some kind of drama says it all about what a scumbag Moore is if you think that this was not a slam dunk after Sessions left! Don't confuse that for some kind of moral clearance though as you tie your colours to his mast!
    You say the accusers claims should be believed, yet you are ignoring the local independent witnesses who have come out to refute those claims. Is does seem like you are a fan of kangaroo courts!

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You say the accusers claims should be believed, yet you are ignoring the local independent witnesses who have come out to refute those claims. Is does seem like you are a fan of kangaroo courts!
    You believe Moore. I don't.
    Is it as simple as this?

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Secret super PAC backing Jones in Alabama exposed

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...-senate-290502

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    Re: Roy Moore

    First CNN Exit Polls:

    Opinion of Doug Jones
    Favorable 49%
    Unfavorable 49%

    Opinion of Roy Moore
    Favorable 42%
    Unfavorable 55%

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Excellent news, he would be a liability for any party, especially now that the Democrats have weoponised accusations. It may backfire though, as there are 264 sealed abuse settlements sitting in congress waiting to be exposed.

    It is also now clear that the public will not tolerate any mention of abuse towards children, which is a very good thing.

    I hope the woman accusing Moore win their court case and he is help accountable for his crimes.

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Excellent news, he would be a liability for any party, especially now that the Democrats have weoponised accusations. It may backfire though, as there are 264 sealed abuse settlements sitting in congress waiting to be exposed.

    It is also now clear that the public will not tolerate any mention of abuse towards children, which is a very good thing.

    I hope the woman accusing Moore win their court case and he is help accountable for his crimes.

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Excellent news, he would be a liability for any party, especially now that the Democrats have weoponised accusations. It may backfire though, as there are 264 sealed abuse settlements sitting in congress waiting to be exposed.

    It is also now clear that the public will not tolerate any mention of abuse towards children, which is a very good thing.

    I hope the woman accusing Moore win their court case and he is help accountable for his crimes.
    ah.... the sound of someone toppling backwards off a fence!

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    ah.... the sound of someone toppling backwards off a fence!
    The people of Alabama have decided who they want and they are the ones who will have to live with their choice. Due process is now dead. It makes no difference to me, I just see it as an interesting development.

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Excellent news, he would be a liability for any party, especially now that the Democrats have weoponised accusations. It may backfire though, as there are 264 sealed abuse settlements sitting in congress waiting to be exposed.

    It is also now clear that the public will not tolerate any mention of abuse towards children, which is a very good thing.

    I hope the woman accusing Moore win their court case and he is help accountable for his crimes.
    Now about those 264 "sealed abuse" settlements.

    Well it would appear there are 264 financial settlements made out of the public purse attributed to settlements against politicians and employees. The list covers 13 different statutes such as the overtime provisions of the Fair Labor Standards Act, the Family and Medical Leave Act, and the Americans with Disabilities Act. A large portion of cases originate from employing offices in the legislative branch other than the House of Representatives or the Senate.

    Indeed the Office of Compliance has confirmed that since 2013 only one settlement was made against a politician for sexual harassment, the Texas Republican Blake Farenthold where an aide was paid $84000. In another instance a $150k settlement was made to an investigator who refused to act on Republican senator Trey Gowdy's direction as Chair of the House Benghazi Committee to focus his work on Hilary Clinton.

    It would appear that Conyers got round this by settling outside this process by using their own office budgets so as you say some other apples may fall from the tree which may justify your hyperbole and dramatic build up.

    https://www.compliance.gov/sites/def...ropriation.pdf

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Moore was waiting for God to show up it seems.
    Seems like God stood him up.
    Oh dear, what a pity, nevermind...

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Moore was waiting for God to show up it seems.
    Seems like God stood him up.
    Oh dear, what a pity, nevermind...
    Moore demanding a recount. I know that they have hangings in Alabama but not too sure about hanging chads! A state that Trump took by 28% last year falls despite his manic endorsement of a fatally flawed breitbart-backed candidate. Still Jones, like Trump has never previously held public office so at least Gluey should approve!

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Did he lose because he holds views on homosexuality, race and non-christian religions that don't belong in the 21st century? Or because the establishment threw the kitchen sink at him?

    I'm unconvinced the people of Alabama were voting on globalisation in this particular one but Trump is certainly in a bit more trouble than he was before. 51-49 in the senate now and he was struggling before that.

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Did he lose because he holds views on homosexuality, race and non-christian religions that don't belong in the 21st century? Or because the establishment threw the kitchen sink at him?

    I'm unconvinced the people of Alabama were voting on globalisation in this particular one but Trump is certainly in a bit more trouble than he was before. 51-49 in the senate now and he was struggling before that.
    I am waiting for WB to tell us why and he is probably waiting until the Breitbart community coalesces around their conspiracy theory of choice. At the moment they have Democrats and Republicans working together (Uniparty), hacked computers, Soros, democrats stuffing ballot boxes and forged write-ins in play but it is fast moving so there could be another that comes from left field before it settles.

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Did he lose because he holds views on homosexuality, race and non-christian religions that don't belong in the 21st century? Or because the establishment threw the kitchen sink at him?

    I'm unconvinced the people of Alabama were voting on globalisation in this particular one but Trump is certainly in a bit more trouble than he was before. 51-49 in the senate now and he was struggling before that.
    Without the distraction of Moore, Trump will be in a stronger position going into the midterm elections next year. With such a slender majority the onus will now be on all of the republicans to fall into line. The voters are watching.

    Anyway, that was yesterday's news. There are a few things going on in the DOJ regarding the Fusion GPS dossier. Interesting times ahead.

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Without the distraction of Moore, Trump will be in a stronger position going into the midterm elections next year. With such a slender majority the onus will now be on all of the republicans to fall into line. The voters are watching.

    Anyway, that was yesterday's news. There are a few things going on in the DOJ regarding the Fusion GPS dossier. Interesting times ahead.
    It happened in the last couple of hours, hardly yesterday's news.

    Interesting that you think this defeat makes trump stronger. Would love to see some workings that aren't utter bullshit.

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    It happened in the last couple of hours, hardly yesterday's news.

    Interesting that you think this defeat makes trump stronger. Would love to see some workings that aren't utter bullshit.
    Of course he will be stronger now that the democrats have weoponised accusations. Everybody is guilty by accusation now, but it works both ways.

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Of course he will be stronger now that the democrats have weoponised accusations. Everybody is guilty by accusation now, but it works both ways.
    What did you think pizzagate was?

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    Re: Roy Moore

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Excellent news, he would be a liability for any party, especially now that the Democrats have weoponised accusations. It may backfire though, as there are 264 sealed abuse settlements sitting in congress waiting to be exposed.



    It is also now clear that the public will not tolerate any mention of abuse towards children, which is a very good thing.

    I hope the woman accusing Moore win their court case and he is help accountable for his crimes.
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    Ah you never fail to make me laugh WB.

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