Reply With QuoteSemanticsOriginally Posted by lardy
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Not the same race though
Semantics
They are both members of the human race aren’t they?
Not really, racism is about different races. Some Indians are the same colour as some Africans but they can still be racist to each other.
Yes you are correct.
Firmino said “CE TA LOUCO? CE TA LOUCO? FILHO DA PUTA,” which translates as: “Are you crazy? Are you crazy? Son of a bitch”
Holgate should have got a red, the crazy son of a bitch!
Maybe Holgate understands Portuguese with a Brazilian dialect?
He says something when Kenny is in the way
Firmino is Brazilian not Indian
Bloody hell, is that what you thought I meant?
I don’t know how you feel about “hate speech” but it seems entirely wrong to me that some people are focusing on what Firmino said rather than the violent and dangerous behaviour of Holgate.
Whooooooosh!Bloody hell, is that what you thought I meant?
Violent is stretching it. It was dangerous and needless though.
I know I’m correct👍
So how can you be racist against a member of the same race? Go on, answer that one smarty pants 🤪
Filho da puta has a couple of different street meanings It can also mean motherf**ker or son of a whore
Either way it’s not a nice thing to say and whichever way it was meant Holgate got the message
He gave him a little push which was unnecessary violent it was not
It was more than a little push to be fair
He shoved him flying over the hoardings. How he never got booked for that I don’t know?
Should have been.
Can the FA act now because the referee didn't do anything?
Did he not get booked because of what happened after?
Are you saying racism doesn't exist?
No, just a talking to, him and Firminho
Answer his question
I am. He said they're both members of the human race therefore it can't be racism. So he's saying racism doesn't exist.
They can if it’s deemed violent but given the alleged racism in Firminhos reaction I’d imagine they will steer clear of charging Holgate.
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