Football Association adopts 'Rooney Rule'

[jon1959]

http://www.football365.com/news/the-...tal-no-brainer

Good article.

[ccfc_is_my_life]

http://www.football365.com/news/the-...tal-no-brainer

Lots of virtue signalling there.

[Croesy Blue]

Lots of virtue signalling there.

Virtue signalling seems to be used by people who can’t imagine that people actually care about stuff like this.

One of those weird overused phrases that sprang into life in the last 2 years and used solely and wrongly by people trying to point score without putting up a decent argument, see also “Nazi, Libitard and strawman”

[ccfc_is_my_life]

People "actually care" until the next thing they care about. Assuming they actually care about it in the first instance.

Best exemplified by women who proclaim they are brought to tears by images of kids during Comic Relief then go back to not giving a single **** the rest of the year.

Now, given the fact that to manage you need the appropriate level of certification, is it the case that few BAME are going through the whole process? It's a possibility. People often cite the number of BAME players, by which they actually mean Black as a stick to beat "racist" chairmen with.

The problem is that players, especially those at the top level make so much money that unless they are complete idiots they don't need to work nor feel the need to give back. The few that do don't want to have to work their way up from the bottom - Nigel Clough being a rarity.

What is happening with this proposal is the very small number of Black ooops BAME candidates will thus be recycled from interview to interview to interview. What is needed is for former players of all backgrounds to be encouraged to take the coaching courses. Gain experience coaching. build a pool of talented coaches who get interviews based upon ability not tokenism. After all, that's the point for those caring people such as yourself, right?

Black players were a rarity once in football. Was an initiative needed? No - acceptance developed organically once brave players showed racists up for what they are.

[William Treseder]

People "actually care" until the next thing they care about. Assuming they actually care about it in the first instance.

Best exemplified by women who proclaim they are brought to tears by images of kids during Comic Relief then go back to not giving a single **** the rest of the year.

Now, given the fact that to manage you need the appropriate level of certification, is it the case that few BAME are going through the whole process? It's a possibility. People often cite the number of BAME players, by which they actually mean Black as a stick to beat "racist" chairmen with.

The problem is that players, especially those at the top level make so much money that unless they are complete idiots they don't need to work nor feel the need to give back. The few that do don't want to have to work their way up from the bottom - Nigel Clough being a rarity.

What is happening with this proposal is the very small number of Black ooops BAME candidates will thus be recycled from interview to interview to interview. What is needed is for former players of all backgrounds to be encouraged to take the coaching courses. Gain experience coaching. build a pool of talented coaches who get interviews based upon ability not tokenism. After all, that's the point for those caring people such as yourself, right?

Black players were a rarity once in football. Was an initiative needed? No - acceptance developed organically once brave players showed racists up for what they are.

Here, hear. Well said that Man!

[Croesy Blue]

People "actually care" until the next thing they care about. Assuming they actually care about it in the first instance.

Best exemplified by women who proclaim they are brought to tears by images of kids during Comic Relief then go back to not giving a single **** the rest of the year.

Now, given the fact that to manage you need the appropriate level of certification, is it the case that few BAME are going through the whole process? It's a possibility. People often cite the number of BAME players, by which they actually mean Black as a stick to beat "racist" chairmen with.

The problem is that players, especially those at the top level make so much money that unless they are complete idiots they don't need to work nor feel the need to give back. The few that do don't want to have to work their way up from the bottom - Nigel Clough being a rarity.

What is happening with this proposal is the very small number of Black ooops BAME candidates will thus be recycled from interview to interview to interview. What is needed is for former players of all backgrounds to be encouraged to take the coaching courses. Gain experience coaching. build a pool of talented coaches who get interviews based upon ability not tokenism. After all, that's the point for those caring people such as yourself, right?

Black players were a rarity once in football. Was an initiative needed? No - acceptance developed organically once brave players showed racists up for what they are.

I don’t 100% agre buts it’s a good post

[Blue in the Face]

Virtue signalling seems to be used by people who can’t imagine that people actually care about stuff like this.

One of those weird overused phrases that sprang into life in the last 2 years and used solely and wrongly by people trying to point score without putting up a decent argument, see also “Nazi, Libitard and strawman”

I think "virtue signalling" is an essential idea and vital to the era that we're in. There is something really wrong going on with social media and politics right now, whereby someone who has convinced themselves that they care about a subject takes to the public realm to tear someone down for their vices for the subliminal gain of portraying themselves as heroic. To really care about a subject means to really think about it, and often that process leads to truths which are hard to convey to those that don't think.

There's a great book called "beware of pity" by an Austrian writer called Stefan Zweig which covers this topic extensively. This book was introduced to me by a Syrian friend who was fed up with people in Berlin who she thought were pretending to care about what was going on in her country, yet inadvertently supported pro industrial military complex politics. Here's an extract from the book which surmises some of the ideas...

"There are two kinds of pity. One, the weak and sentimental kind, which is really no more than the heart's impatience to be rid as quickly as possible of the painful emotion aroused by the sight of another's unhappiness, that pity which is not compassion, but only an instinctive desire to fortify one's own soul agains the sufferings of another; and the other, the only one at counts, the unsentimental but creative kind, which knows what it is about and is determined to hold out, in patience and forbearance, to the very limit of its strength and even beyond."

[ccfc_is_my_life]

I don’t 100% agre buts it’s a good post

I do occasionally make some...

[David Vincent]

I think "virtue signalling" is an essential idea and vital to the era that we're in. There is something really wrong going on with social media and politics right now, whereby someone who has convinced themselves that they care about a subject takes to the public realm to tear someone down for their vices for the subliminal gain of portraying themselves as heroic. To really care about a subject means to really think about it, and often that process leads to truths which are hard to convey to those that don't think.

There's a great book called "beware of pity" by an Austrian writer called Stefan Zweig which covers this topic extensively. This book was introduced to me by a Syrian friend who was fed up with people in Berlin who she thought were pretending to care about what was going on in her country, yet inadvertently supported pro industrial military complex politics. Here's an extract from the book which surmises some of the ideas...

"There are two kinds of pity. One, the weak and sentimental kind, which is really no more than the heart's impatience to be rid as quickly as possible of the painful emotion aroused by the sight of another's unhappiness, that pity which is not compassion, but only an instinctive desire to fortify one's own soul agains the sufferings of another; and the other, the only one at counts, the unsentimental but creative kind, which knows what it is about and is determined to hold out, in patience and forbearance, to the very limit of its strength and even beyond."

Virtue signalling is much more simple than that. It's all about advertising your fitness as a sexual partner. Generous and liberal minded people are seen as better prospective mates and parents than cold hearted realists. The great thing about virtue signalling is that it doesn't cost you anything – others end up paying for your "generosity".