Giggs on the brink of Wales appointment

[ccfc_is_my_life]

Well I've never really heard of someone who has never won anything apart from a league cup be praised for their winning mentality bellers had one really good season with man city but still didn't do anything giggs consistently had good seasons bearing injuries and spent his entire career at one of the best clubs in the world for 20 years yet bellamy had 9 different clubs and when he had a chance at a big club Liverpool he done nothing

Giggs and injuries - those that magically cleared up when Man Yoo next had a game.

Nobody at that Liverpool side did anything.

Now, Bellamy has helped with the Welsh u21 side, motivating. Continually been around squad when having legitimate injuries. Gone into youth development - started helping us unpaid. Can't recall Giggs doing anything similar.

I've zero doubt that if he got the job, it would be the entire focus of Bellamy. Can you seriously claim the same for Giggs, do you really believe he'd not be using it as a stepping stone for a club management role to be hand to him on a plate?

[jamieccfc]

Giggs and injuries - those that magically cleared up when Man Yoo next had a game.

Nobody at that Liverpool side did anything.

Now, Bellamy has helped with the Welsh u21 side, motivating. Continually been around squad when having legitimate injuries. Gone into youth development - started helping us unpaid. Can't recall Giggs doing anything similar.

I've zero doubt that if he got the job, it would be the entire focus of Bellamy. Can you seriously claim the same for Giggs, do you really believe he'd not be using it as a stepping stone for a club management role to be hand to him on a plate?

Liverpool had won the fa cup cup the season before and the champions league the season before that.

If you read my posts I would rather bellamy over giggs i dont want giggs to get it but you (william) cant say bellamy got a better winning mentality thanthan giggs I would've liked Robinson to get it

[ccfc_is_my_life]

Liverpool had won the fa cup cup the season before and the champions league the season before that.

If you read my posts I would rather bellamy over giggs i dont want giggs to get it but you (william) cant say bellamy got a better winning mentality thanthan giggs I would've liked Robinson to get it

You're confusing mentality with trophies.

That's the point you're missing out on. Bellamy is a perfectionist - hence getting frustrated when players not performing. THAT is a winners mentality, a drive to achieve the best.

Robinson? He's got managerial experience - in MLS. A league so great that Bradley Wright-Phillips regularly is in the top scorer charts. His record there has been hit/miss. Make playoffs, miss playoffs. I'm not decrying the man management spects of that but pushing Robinson due to that is akin to pushing WPL managers.

For me, it should be Bellamy.

[jamieccfc]

You're confusing mentality with trophies.

That's the point you're missing out on. Bellamy is a perfectionist - hence getting frustrated when players not performing. THAT is a winners mentality, a drive to achieve the best.

Robinson? He's got managerial experience - in MLS. A league so great that Bradley Wright-Phillips regularly is in the top scorer charts. His record there has been hit/miss. Make playoffs, miss playoffs. I'm not decrying the man management spects of that but pushing Robinson due to that is akin to pushing WPL managers.

For me, it should be Bellamy.

Ok let's take Steven Gerrard for example now he has a winning mentality because he drove his team on to win trophies no one gives a feck if you win games until you win the big one with the trophy at the end. I agree that bellamy has the desire to succeed but I'm not having he has a better winning mentality than giggs who has won 35 trophies which is the aim of winning. At least Robinson has experienced managing belly is just starting off and would be much better what he's doing now and learning

[ccfc_is_my_life]

Ok let's take Steven Gerrard for example now he has a winning mentality because he drove his team on to win trophies no one gives a feck if you win games until you win the big one with the trophy at the end. I agree that bellamy has the desire to succeed but I'm not having he has a better winning mentality than giggs who has won 35 trophies which is the aim of winning. At least Robinson has experienced managing belly is just starting off and would be much better what he's doing now and learning

Gerrard is an example of a mentality and trophies sure - you could see his passion and drive took games by the scruff of the next and won games that should have been lost. Cup final vs Palace an example.

Giggs? Not so much. Giggs won trophies as part of a dominant squad. Welsh performances nowhere near as good, didn't elevate other players.

The choice would be between Bellamy and Giggs; sorry, there's no choice there at all. One wants a big Prem club role, the other taking a far more low key approach, wating to learn from bottom up.

If Giggs gets it, I can see him employing who he knows - so his Man Yoo cronies them come in on the coaching staff. If Osian then quits, appointing Giggs will have set us back years.

[ccfc_is_my_life]

Even Alan Shearer is taking the piss.

Alan Shearer.

The muppet who took over Newcastle knowing when they relegated, could claim wasn't his fault, knew if a miracle happened he'd be a hero.

He is taking the piss out of us.

Thank you FAW.

[J R Hartley]

This thread is bananas. The most decorated player in British football is not a perfectionist, even though he managed himself both mentally and physically to play and win trophies for over 20 years at the very top. In winning all those trophies he still does not have as much of a winning mentality as someone whos won a measly league cup, and only won the many, many trophies he did over a 20 year period because of the players he played with, even though he was the one common donominator in all of Fergies success and he won more than any of his team mates.