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    Re: Giggs on the brink of Wales appointment

    Quote Originally Posted by jamieccfc View Post
    Liverpool had won the fa cup cup the season before and the champions league the season before that.

    If you read my posts I would rather bellamy over giggs i dont want giggs to get it but you (william) cant say bellamy got a better winning mentality thanthan giggs I would've liked Robinson to get it
    You're confusing mentality with trophies.

    That's the point you're missing out on. Bellamy is a perfectionist - hence getting frustrated when players not performing. THAT is a winners mentality, a drive to achieve the best.

    Robinson? He's got managerial experience - in MLS. A league so great that Bradley Wright-Phillips regularly is in the top scorer charts. His record there has been hit/miss. Make playoffs, miss playoffs. I'm not decrying the man management spects of that but pushing Robinson due to that is akin to pushing WPL managers.

    For me, it should be Bellamy.

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    Re: Giggs on the brink of Wales appointment

    Quote Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life View Post
    You're confusing mentality with trophies.

    That's the point you're missing out on. Bellamy is a perfectionist - hence getting frustrated when players not performing. THAT is a winners mentality, a drive to achieve the best.

    Robinson? He's got managerial experience - in MLS. A league so great that Bradley Wright-Phillips regularly is in the top scorer charts. His record there has been hit/miss. Make playoffs, miss playoffs. I'm not decrying the man management spects of that but pushing Robinson due to that is akin to pushing WPL managers.

    For me, it should be Bellamy.
    Ok let's take Steven Gerrard for example now he has a winning mentality because he drove his team on to win trophies no one gives a feck if you win games until you win the big one with the trophy at the end. I agree that bellamy has the desire to succeed but I'm not having he has a better winning mentality than giggs who has won 35 trophies which is the aim of winning. At least Robinson has experienced managing belly is just starting off and would be much better what he's doing now and learning

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    Re: Giggs on the brink of Wales appointment

    Quote Originally Posted by jamieccfc View Post
    Ok let's take Steven Gerrard for example now he has a winning mentality because he drove his team on to win trophies no one gives a feck if you win games until you win the big one with the trophy at the end. I agree that bellamy has the desire to succeed but I'm not having he has a better winning mentality than giggs who has won 35 trophies which is the aim of winning. At least Robinson has experienced managing belly is just starting off and would be much better what he's doing now and learning
    Gerrard is an example of a mentality and trophies sure - you could see his passion and drive took games by the scruff of the next and won games that should have been lost. Cup final vs Palace an example.

    Giggs? Not so much. Giggs won trophies as part of a dominant squad. Welsh performances nowhere near as good, didn't elevate other players.

    The choice would be between Bellamy and Giggs; sorry, there's no choice there at all. One wants a big Prem club role, the other taking a far more low key approach, wating to learn from bottom up.

    If Giggs gets it, I can see him employing who he knows - so his Man Yoo cronies them come in on the coaching staff. If Osian then quits, appointing Giggs will have set us back years.

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