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    Giggs on the brink of Wales appointment

    Can't say I'm that inspired. Seems many fans not inspired either.


    Wales are trying to strike a financial deal with Ryan Giggs which could see him named as Chris Coleman's successor within the next 48 hours.

    We understand Giggs is the FA of Wales' chosen man, despite Craig Bellamy giving what is being dubbed 'a Hollywood interview' which made the final decision the tightest of calls.

    Bellamy is said to have wowed the FAW's seven-man panel conducting the new manager hunt with a hugely impressive Powerpoint presentation demonstrating his vision for Welsh football. He is also reported to have received support from dressing room superstars Gareth Bale and Aaron Ramsey.

    However, Giggs is believed to have been given the nod by a narrow margin and FAW chief executive Jonathan Ford was thought to be negotiating with the Wales and Manchester United legend over the weekend to nail down the terms of the contract.


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    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/f...spite-14154068

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    I’m in the minority I think Giggs will bring his professionalism and winning mentality to the party. I think it’s a good thing.

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    Re: Giggs on the brink of Wales appointment

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I’m in the minority I think Giggs will bring his professionalism and winning mentality to the party. I think it’s a good thing.
    The same Giggs who spat his dummy out over not being handed the Man Yoo job or Bellamy who has continually shown interest in helping young talent develop?

    Compare and contrast Giggs and Bellamy in punditry. One seems liable to end every sentence with "I'm Ryan Giggs..." to justify his comments, the other is highly media savvy and comes out with intuitive points.

    Tough call...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life View Post
    The same Giggs who spat his dummy out over not being handed the Man Yoo job or Bellamy who has continually shown interest in helping young talent develop?

    Compare and contrast Giggs and Bellamy in punditry. One seems liable to end every sentence with "I'm Ryan Giggs..." to justify his comments, the other is highly media savvy and comes out with intuitive points.

    Tough call...
    GIGGS? I fear the worst, but I did with Coleman so World Cup Semis here we come.

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    Re: Giggs on the brink of Wales appointment

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I’m in the minority I think Giggs will bring his professionalism and winning mentality to the party. I think it’s a good thing.
    Alex Ferguson, who knows Giggs best, has never touted him up as a manager, neither for Man Utd after he left, nor for any other team. Fergie would know if hes has the attributes to be a manager or not, I would have thought

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    Re: Giggs on the brink of Wales appointment

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    Alex Ferguson, who knows Giggs best, has never touted him up as a manager, neither for Man Utd after he left, nor for any other team. Fergie would know if hes has the attributes to be a manager or not, I would have thought
    Fergie says he does thus making your point redundant

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36705707

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    Re: Giggs on the brink of Wales appointment

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I’m in the minority I think Giggs will bring his professionalism and winning mentality to the party. I think it’s a good thing.
    Yes, I dont fully understand the dislike of the most decorated Welsh /Cardiff footballer .

    Taking his appalling behavior outside of the game he has been and done it .

    I think his approach to friendless probably correct as it lengthened his career to the age of 40 in the top league in Europe /world ( yes 40 ) ,

    He was one of the greatest British footballers probably in a top 20 list , blistering pace early in his career , after his hamstrings stopped him sprinting flat out , he became an intelligent passer and reader of a game ,made it look easy really ,won 24 trophies during 24 years ..


    I'm not sure about his management skills , I do know he has played ,won at the highest level , tutored by the greatest football manger of recent times , played with and against legends .

    Perhaps young Welsh footballers will look up at him and hopefully learn .

    I do remember the hatred of the Coleman appointment, and insults ,which he has referred too , nothing like a bit of loyalty to your own.

    Lets be proud .

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    A mate of mine is close to someone in the FAW who said today that it is Giggs.
    If Bellamy impressed more than him then why the feck hasn’t he been given it?
    Typical FAfeckingW. Gone for the big name.

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    Re: Giggs on the brink of Wales appointment

    Quote Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life View Post
    The same Giggs who spat his dummy out over not being handed the Man Yoo job or Bellamy who has continually shown interest in helping young talent develop?

    Compare and contrast Giggs and Bellamy in punditry. One seems liable to end every sentence with "I'm Ryan Giggs..." to justify his comments, the other is highly media savvy and comes out with intuitive points.

    Tough call...
    Gary Neville is a great pundit.....

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    Re: Giggs on the brink of Wales appointment

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Gary Neville is a great pundit.....
    Indeed but Bellamy can at least articulate his points. Giggs? Eh....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life View Post
    Indeed but Bellamy can at least articulate his points. Giggs? Eh....
    Gary Neville is very articulate

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    Bellamy is very articulate, and if the players don’t take on board what he’s saying then he can always get a golf club out of the boot of the car.

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    Bellamy has also been present for younger age groups - most notably when u21s beat France, was there in the dressing room motivating them.

    Giggs involvement with yoof would relate to getting into their mum's knickers...

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    Re: Giggs on the brink of Wales appointment

    Quote Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life View Post
    Bellamy has also been present for younger age groups - most notably when u21s beat France, was there in the dressing room motivating them.

    Giggs involvement with yoof would relate to getting into their mum's knickers...
    Bellamy was always present for Wales when fit as well, is anyone going to claim that Giggs was genuinely injured every time he missed a game for his country?

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    Maybe giggs made some promises not to shag any of their wives

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    I'm not against giggs like many, although he wouldn't be my choice I don't automatically think he will be shit.

    I do think he would be off in a shot if a better job came up though, and I think out of the 2 Bellamy would be in it for the long haul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    I'm not against giggs like many, although he wouldn't be my choice I don't automatically think he will be shit.

    I do think he would be off in a shot if a better job came up though, and I think out of the 2 Bellamy would be in it for the long haul.
    I agree with this. The thing is the Welsh manager job is not even as lucrative as some Championship jobs these days. If you were a young manager, I think you'd plump for the Cardiff job (for example) ahead of the Wales job.

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    I don't think Giggs would be off in a shot for the simple fact he won't get a better job offer.

    Player/Manager in an interim basis at Man Yoo, spat dummy when Mourinho appointed over him. Where were the big offers then - after all Man Yoo is slightly higher profile than Wales.

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    My first choice would have been Osian Roberts but I would have been excited about Bellamy getting the job. He has a combination of having a great playing career behind him, playing under some great managers, a winning mentality and a real enthusiasm for the future of Welsh football. You feel that he really wants the job because of a desire to manage his country and not just to further his career.

    Having said all that, if Giggs does get the job he’ll get my support like every other manager has, even Bobby bloody Gould. Given how unpopular he is with many fans though, he’s going to be under enormous pressure right from the start.

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    I get why people want Osian but his proven skill has been developing players. Take him away from that you have to hope his replacement is as good. I'd keep him where he is to maximise the future talented crops of players we have coming through.

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    Re: Giggs on the brink of Wales appointment

    Quote Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life View Post
    I get why people want Osian but his proven skill has been developing players. Take him away from that you have to hope his replacement is as good. I'd keep him where he is to maximise the future talented crops of players we have coming through.
    I totally understand this point of view too, I just feel that we need someone the players want to play for. They would certainly bust a guy for OR.

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    Re: Giggs on the brink of Wales appointment

    Quote Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life View Post
    I get why people want Osian but his proven skill has been developing players. Take him away from that you have to hope his replacement is as good. I'd keep him where he is to maximise the future talented crops of players we have coming through.
    Why do you think he would stop doing that if he had got the job? After all, it's hardly as if the team he'd be managing was playing Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday is it. I would hope that he would have still wanted to be involved in the other age groups if he had become manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Why do you think he would stop doing that if he had got the job? After all, it's hardly as if the team he'd be managing was playing Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday is it. I would hope that he would have still wanted to be involved in the other age groups if he had become manager.
    A manager's relationship with players is different to a coach's relationship.

    Giggs worries me because he didn't really seem like he was enjoying playing for Wales - although he often came out and stated that, even if he could play for England, he would have chosen Wales, I have a suspicion that it is as token a statement as kissing a badge. Giggs also worries me because he has been isolated from the ugly parts of football all his life. One club, one country (with his club dictating conditions in which he could play).

    Even if he gets the Wales job, he has never set foot outside of those two organisation, MUFC and Wales apart from his early years in Man City.

    Unlike Bale, it always felt that Wales should be privileged to have Giggs playing for them and giving them his valuable time. He never came across as being part of a group (ok, maybe the same could be said at Man U - but he did seem to be part of the Beckham/Scholes/Neville pact). I'm not convinced he has taken even a passing interest in the Welsh U21s and U18s - again I could be wrong and I would hope the FAW appointing him means that I am wrong.

    This appears nothing more than a step onto the managerial roundabout for me. The one thing I would add, though, is that Giggs needs it to be a success.

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    Re: Giggs on the brink of Wales appointment

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Why do you think he would stop doing that if he had got the job? After all, it's hardly as if the team he'd be managing was playing Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday is it. I would hope that he would have still wanted to be involved in the other age groups if he had become manager.
    Trollope's a cracking coach, crap manager.

    We know Osian is doing a great job at the moment, where that's his sole focus. Appoint him manager, we risk his attention being diverted. I'd prefer him staying there, arguably a more valuable job than managing the national side.

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    Bellamy cares...chopsy f’cker yes but he cares.
    Does Giggs?
    There’s only one job he wants and that’s the Man Utd job eventually.

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