Whilst it wouldn’t bother me if Giggs got the job, I would argue that Bellamy has more of a winning mentality than Giggs.Originally Posted by J R Hartley
If it was my decision it would be Bellamy in a heartbeat.
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Whilst it wouldn’t bother me if Giggs got the job, I would argue that Bellamy has more of a winning mentality than Giggs.
If it was my decision it would be Bellamy in a heartbeat.
How many trophies has bellamy got compared to giggs
Think you'll find football teams rely upon more than just one player.
What's your point he said bellamy had a better winning mentality than giggs all giggs done through his career was win and was a main point of man Utd winning
Compare the teams Bellamy was in with Man Yoo. Giggs always had a better supporting cast except with Wales - which showed in a lot of his performances.
Bellamy is a perfectionist, which explains lot of his issues. I don't see Giggs anywhere near the same.
You're giving an opinion and stating it as fact.
Well, I await you posting that response to everybody then...
Giggs finished his career in a high profile way - player/manager of Man Yoo. When he left, where exactly were the big job offers then hmm?
On that note it’s goodnight
Am I alone in thinking I'd prefer Bellamy to continue to develop himself at CCFC with a view to being Warnock's successor?
No
or why not go for osian roberts the brains behind wales,s success FFS
Why move him from where he's doing an excellent job? Also, Trollope was an excellent coach, shit manager.
No. Although, I wouldn't have minded him being thrown in at the shallow end to develop with Wales either.
I'm OK with Giggs.
Spot on Mike.
I think Bellamy, given time, would be a fantastic replacement for Warnock.
Like Warnock, Bellamy would attract many decent players to Cardiff.
So I'd favour Giggs in the Wales job.
No
I think Wales' loss is Cardiff's gain. I can see Bellamy as Cardiff manager in 18 months time.
Giggs will be in no position to berate players when they pull out of friendlies. A manager should lead by example to command the respect of players and unfortunately Giggs fails to pass muster.
You are confusing a “winning mentality” with a “winning record.” It’s ok though. I’m here to educate you. 😎
Well I've never really heard of someone who has never won anything apart from a league cup be praised for their winning mentality bellers had one really good season with man city but still didn't do anything giggs consistently had good seasons bearing injuries and spent his entire career at one of the best clubs in the world for 20 years yet bellamy had 9 different clubs and when he had a chance at a big club Liverpool he done nothing
Giggs and injuries - those that magically cleared up when Man Yoo next had a game.
Nobody at that Liverpool side did anything.
Now, Bellamy has helped with the Welsh u21 side, motivating. Continually been around squad when having legitimate injuries. Gone into youth development - started helping us unpaid. Can't recall Giggs doing anything similar.
I've zero doubt that if he got the job, it would be the entire focus of Bellamy. Can you seriously claim the same for Giggs, do you really believe he'd not be using it as a stepping stone for a club management role to be hand to him on a plate?
Liverpool had won the fa cup cup the season before and the champions league the season before that.
If you read my posts I would rather bellamy over giggs i dont want giggs to get it but you (william) cant say bellamy got a better winning mentality thanthan giggs I would've liked Robinson to get it
You're confusing mentality with trophies.
That's the point you're missing out on. Bellamy is a perfectionist - hence getting frustrated when players not performing. THAT is a winners mentality, a drive to achieve the best.
Robinson? He's got managerial experience - in MLS. A league so great that Bradley Wright-Phillips regularly is in the top scorer charts. His record there has been hit/miss. Make playoffs, miss playoffs. I'm not decrying the man management spects of that but pushing Robinson due to that is akin to pushing WPL managers.
For me, it should be Bellamy.
Even Alan Shearer is taking the piss.
Alan Shearer.
The muppet who took over Newcastle knowing when they relegated, could claim wasn't his fault, knew if a miracle happened he'd be a hero.
He is taking the piss out of us.
Thank you FAW.
This thread is bananas. The most decorated player in British football is not a perfectionist, even though he managed himself both mentally and physically to play and win trophies for over 20 years at the very top. In winning all those trophies he still does not have as much of a winning mentality as someone whos won a measly league cup, and only won the many, many trophies he did over a 20 year period because of the players he played with, even though he was the one common donominator in all of Fergies success and he won more than any of his team mates.
For me, the point is that this appointment is absolutely crucial due to the plyers we have coming through - more potential than in a very long time.
The wrong appointment can easily setback the good work Toshack started and Speed really accelerated.
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