Ryan Giggs - Some Stats

[life on mars]

At dodging friendly internationals.

Giggs was much better than Beckham on the field of play and at dodging mindless friendlies as Ferguson didn't want to lose Giggs to injury over above Beckham. And Giggs efforts were greater in terms of pace and ground coverage.

[Louth]

Friendlies? In fairness who gives a feck? Its a money making racket for the various FA's. Hand on heart, who mentions 'were you at the friendly when we beat ####?

[lardy]

Friendlies? In fairness who gives a feck? Its a money making racket for the various FA's. Hand on heart, who mentions 'were you at the friendly when we beat ####?

How about Brazil when Deano scored?

[the other bob wilson]

Friendlies? In fairness who gives a feck? Its a money making racket for the various FA's. Hand on heart, who mentions 'were you at the friendly when we beat ####?

Wales 3 Iceland 1 a few years ago included one of the best individual performances I've seen in the flesh and it was topped off by a superb goal. The player in question? A certain Gareth Bale.

As far as a Giggs v Bale comparison goes, there is a fair bit of research in this piece

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/wales/42718816

which, to my mind, is written from a pro Giggs point of view.

I'd prefer to use a more basic means of measuring the two players' commitment to their country. In the case of Gareth Bale, his words and his actions show that playing for his country is very important to him (I'd say the same applied to David Beckham as well), but with Ryan Giggs, although there were plenty of fine words about how much playing for Wales meant to him, his actions over a lengthy period suggested otherwise - to not play a single friendly game for your country over a period of nearly a decade is a disgrace and distractions about how many people were watching those matches do not make one iota of difference to that.

[City123]

Wales 3 Iceland 1 a few years ago included one of the best individual performances I've seen in the flesh and it was topped off by a superb goal. The player in question? A certain Gareth Bale.

As far as a Giggs v Bale comparison goes, there is a fair bit of research in this piece

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/wales/42718816

which, to my mind, is written from a pro Giggs point of view.

I'd prefer to use a more basic means of measuring the two players' commitment to their country. In the case of Gareth Bale, his words and his actions show that playing for his country is very important to him (I'd say the same applied to David Beckham as well), but with Ryan Giggs, although there were plenty of fine words about how much playing for Wales meant to him, his actions over a lengthy period suggested otherwise - to not play a single friendly game for your country over a period of nearly a decade is a disgrace and distractions about how many people were watching those matches do not make one iota of difference to that.

Elis James summed up that argument quite well by saying it's an honour to play for your country, it isn't an honour buying a ticket

[Pearcey3]

Wales 3 Iceland 1 a few years ago included one of the best individual performances I've seen in the flesh and it was topped off by a superb goal. The player in question? A certain Gareth Bale.

As far as a Giggs v Bale comparison goes, there is a fair bit of research in this piece

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/wales/42718816

which, to my mind, is written from a pro Giggs point of view.

I'd prefer to use a more basic means of measuring the two players' commitment to their country. In the case of Gareth Bale, his words and his actions show that playing for his country is very important to him (I'd say the same applied to David Beckham as well), but with Ryan Giggs, although there were plenty of fine words about how much playing for Wales meant to him, his actions over a lengthy period suggested otherwise - to not play a single friendly game for your country over a period of nearly a decade is a disgrace and distractions about how many people were watching those matches do not make one iota of difference to that.

Indeed. Giggs can hardly complain if half the squad pull out of friendlies going forward. Either way he won’t be Eales coach for long. If it goes well he will jump ship and onto a bigger job. If it goes badly he will get the boot.

[Ell.]

Unpopular choice..

https://www.jewishtelegraph.com/sport_3.html

[dembethewarrior]

No we wouldn't, they only started using FIFA rankings to seed qualifying draws very recently. The friendlies that Giggs missed had no effect whatsoever on our seedings.

Yep. We caused a bit of a stink because we were clever with our friendlies in recent years helping us climb the world rankings...if imagine if this was around when Giggs was playing then more international teams would have used it to their advantage