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They’ve achieved they goal though sadly TOBW. A prime minister with no spine called a daft referendum which most people didn’t realise the complexities of as he was scared of these idiots.Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Never in British political history did the tail wag the dog more.
If they elected Jo Marney they'd walk the next election. She's got more spirit and a better body than most politicians. That Henry Bolton is far too young for her. She needs an older man like myself to temper her feistiness.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/536829...cist-messages/
It's time for a new political party to emerge with fresh ideas. Let's see what happens after the stormy weather is over.
Hope we don't get too wet.
For all the huff and puff Farage couldn't win a seat in OUR parliament despite
several attempts.
UKIP was a blip of cranky twats and their day has been and gone.
Remainer til I die.
Speaking to folk who have voted for them who are mainly labour voters ,I get the feeling they would if the right messages were they they would , even before Brexit they did get a 2 million vote ,their overall message resonated in the poorer areas
Do you value the opinion of xenophobe 50 something unionist Welsh, I don't, the sooner they drop dead the better.
No, I dont value their opinion or bigotry .
I did say I was talking to folk that used to vote labour or still do .
It appears they are at complete odds with the free movement and Immigration views of the Labour as it impacts onto their communities .
The Brexit vote saw UKIP came 3rd ,in Wales ,13.6% of the vote, my gut feeling says that fact is still in play ,therefore yes they could seep back to UKIP .
They dont differentiate between refugees, entry via Calais ,or the European fee movement plan , they just see services squeezed .
The impact has a long history going back to the Blair government , and in hindsight the mistake ,to enable early entry of 2 million people on free movement ,without bolstering services in areas like the poor English seaside town ,and the valleys .
Labour need a strong policy statement on this to avoid a voter slip back to a UKIP .
How often are you in Scotland Mambo?
I'd take Welsh independence tomorrow if primarily it meant remaining in the EU, but also, and ironically the rampant vile bigotry of the little Britain insular underclasses and being governed by a tosspot public schoolboy elite has left me devoid of any loyalty to or fondness for mainstream contemporary GB.
I'm sure many Scots feel the same way, yet for aspiring for something different They're labelled as vile, dangerous, hate filled nats...Mental innit.
Where abouts? My sister has been married to a Scot for ~15 years so have spent quite a bit of time up there and never heard a word of it. I would be considered English to them too (1/2 Welsh by grandparents but born and brought up in England) so I would have thought I might get a load of shit up there but never.Im half Scottish Eric, have family there - so once a year - sometimes twice - thanks for asking though
The independent vote - was horrible, listening to the relatives (on both sides) some of the stuff that went on - horrible nasty nats - not all obviously - but lots of it,
Not entirely sure how Blair can be blamed for what Scottish people think or say, you might have to explain that one.
Will the Clinton/Obama/Merkel globalist view of the world survive?
Wrong thread to comment. You’ve got about 5000 others which you’ve started to talk about this 👍
BlueWales stated in this very thread that he is a Remainer til he dies. I was merely querying whether there will be anything left to be a remainer of
BlueWales stated in this very thread that he is a Remainer til he dies. I was merely querying whether there will be anything left to be a remainer of
Hope?
I'm all out of hope atm
Good on you Henry for punching above yer weight, in more ways than one .
Release the Farage
Private Finance Initiative (PFI) schemes were introduced to the UK under the John Major Government in the 1990s, with the first PFI project [Skye Bridge] tested in Scotland.
Blair then exploited more than anyone ,initially folk thought it was a good idea ,even socialist as it allowed Goverments like Blair's to bolster NHS funding and other social measures such as rough sleeping , I dont think anyone in goverment plans on disasters
Meh, was a joke. Me and mambo like to have a Barney now and again, he has been a prick to me before and I have been one back. Its fun sometimes, I doubt he is precious enough to give a toss, unlike you, thanks for coming to his rescue though Sir Lancelot.
Yes this. Ridiculous assertion that David Vincent and I go head to head listing our interactions with immigrants and then we all have a chat about whether immigrants are entitled or not (the people on average with the least wealth and worst quality of life are demonstrably entitled??). This place is bonkers and I thought I would respond in a manner befitting the nature of the post. Some of the things David Vincent gets away with saying on here unchallenged are complete rubbish. Direct the bleedin challenge to the guy making the ridiculous claim, not me for saying the immigrants I have met are nice.
I'm sorry to hear about your cock. You might have met some great immigrants but judging by your comments about Mambo's dad I would guess the immigrants you meet are a bit unusual. I was going to suggest that you move in a small circle but in the light of your earlier post that could be misconstrued.
I can't write what I really think on here because I would be arrested. There is no free speech in the UK. If I moved to France I would keep my head down and mind my own business. I wouldn't go around telling the French to pull down statues. I wouldn't be constantly demanding free stuff. And I wouldn't tell the French to change their laws and customs to suit me.
You would need to leave your armchair David. What laws and customs have immigrants forced upon you? What favourite statues have you lost and as for constantly demanding free stuff, I am going to guess your comprehensive evidence will be a few inflammatory newspaper articles designed to boil your blood.
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