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Originally Posted by Superdad
why should we be surprised if this happens
He has done this three previous occasions and i said we could be the fourth club to fall for it.
This fat lump has signed long term contracts with 4 clubs and left in less than a year 4 times
He participated in just 70 games for those clubs including taking part (not necessarily starting) 16 for us
We are a basket club
He may not be the most athletic, but along with Hoilett he is the one player we've got I'd pay to watch
I agree and think we should keep Tomlin, at least as a bench option. He is one of a few players who can actually create something and be a game changer.
Warnock has finally lost his marbles. How the fvck he thinks swapping Ward for Tomlin is a good deal? People hung Malky out to dry for wasting Tans money, seems our Neil can just get away with it. 2m wasted because Ward is no 2m rated player. He’s just had his loan cancelled by the mighty Burton Albion ffs.
Get Warnock down A&E because he needs a medical asap. Potentially he’s wasted about 8m today alone.
Colin really is becoming a Wanker.
Nice to see you're blasting Warnock for "wasting" about "8m" given neither deal has gone through and there's no way the actual figures will be revealed.
EDIT: And you go to A&E for a medical, huh? Proves the NHS issue is idiots abusing A&E not "underfunding"...
Shut it Clive.
Given your accuracy in your posts, I'd not be surprised if Stantona did not in fact have a brother.
If this was Russell Slade doing these deals they’d be murders on here. For some reason Warnock is exempt from all criticism.
Don’t get it at all.
Neither of those deals have been done.
£6m for Madine? Absolutely don't see that.
I just think criticising Warnock for deals that haven't happened with speculated figures is just a tad silly. It would be like blaming him for noted authors falling for photoshops.
Oh dear...... its happened!!!!
Neil Warnock has been managing for 37 years and has got seven teams promoted. Russel Slade has managed 12 clubs and won the grand total of f.ck all.
Slade was shit now **** off you boring twerp
Ooof. That's harsh!
1). Tomlin only cost £1.6m.
2). The deals with Tomlin and Ward are loans, so no transfer fees are involved and no money wasted.
3). Ward is match fit whereas Tomlin isnt and needs a run of games, which he will get at Forest but not competing against us. He will come back to us in the summer raring to go.
4). Warnock is the best manager we have had in years.
5). How do you know the Madine fee is £6m - its undisclosed, so unless you know someone in authority at City, I wouldn't rely on the media.
6). City have only spent a net figure of around £5m since Warnock came in, on about 12 players - hardly big spending charlies are we.
There you are - you can stop panicking now, all your points have been disproved.
No money wasted? What about the initial transfer fees? By all accounts we paid at least £2.5m for Tomlin and Bogle, two of only three players we paid cash for over the summer. That is money wasted as they're no longer at the club to help us with the promotion push. We've also had to spend at least another £2m on bringing in another striker.
Another post on here said Tomlin wanted to be closer to home due to current circumstances. Not sure if that's referring to the aftermath of his court case or not, but if it is then we knew he had issues about moving home when we was at Bristol. We surely also knew there was a court case pending. And why isn't he match fit? He's been with us all season but not been deemed good enough to be in the team. I'm gutted he's gone to Forest, absolutely gutted. Just says to me that Warnock got it wrong.
The Bogle transfer is just as strange as he's gone to a team that isn't even in the League One play-offs. It tells me his level is League One, especially if the likes of Sunderland (who were after Nuhui!), Burton and Bolton even (swap?) didn't come in for him?
Do you not know the difference between selling and loaning out a player ?. Tomlin and Bogle are loans i.e. They still belong to us. Therefore their original fees have not been wasted - they go away, play games and get fitter. We may even have recall clauses in the agreements. We will only find out if we have lost money on them when they are actually sold on. There is no doubt in my mind that Bogle has gone out to get games and experience and will come back a better player for us in future. Tomlin is a different story but we need someone like him fully fit now for the run in and havent got five or six games to play him back to fitness - we need a fully fit team now to maintain our challenge.
Funnily enough sunshine, I do, but thanks for the lesson in plain English.
We paid money in transfer fees for them to perform for us this season, not on loan to other teams. As I've said in other posts, I'm gutted Tomlin has gone, but I can't see why we have to send him to a team that may turn into a play-off rival to get him fit.
What position was he playing in those games? How many of those were bit part sub appearances?
Anyway, as this thread isn't about Medine...
Anyone think Ward will be used as a 10?
He's hardly prolific and we have enough out wide (his other named position)
How do you know the fee was 1.6 for Tomlin?
Warnock said on the channel 5 football show after on the show week before they said it was nearly 3m so he wrote in to point it out
Because Warnock made a statement before Xmas, as he was fed up of all the speculation, and categorically stated that the fee was £1.6m.
Spot on ,there's no pleasing some folk, what were we supposed to do sign no one ,Warnock has at least freshened it up with good lads in from Norwich and Liverpool ,
Who look decent .
Ward is a worker .
Madine is a goal scorer ,big bruiser ,won't suffer fools in the box ,I think he will be a hit ,and knows how to punch his weight ,always thought we were too nice up front anyway .
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