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    Is the rise of the Tory right a cause for a general election?

    Rumours in the far right media that Johnson, Gove and Rees-Smog are plotting to overthrow the current Tory leadership. Certainly the far right of the party has been most vocal when Brexit negotiations haven't gone their way.

    Would May have much to lose by threatening a general election as a counter to this attack on her premiership? On a personal level, probably not. If she was to lose a general election, she'd probably leave politics. If she was ousted, she'd probably leave politics as well and the DUP deal would collapse, leaving a more right wing Tory minority to eventually collapse.

    Should she call a general election she would remain leader and would pitch her idea of Brexit and Conservativism to the country. If she wins, the far right are squashed. If she loses, the far right are a small group in opposition.

    I reckon she should consider her own strength as leader and call one. She'd have nothing to lose and the opportunity to get conspirators off her back.

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    Re: Is the rise of the Tory right a cause for a general election?

    There are many attacking May from within the party , European leaders and oppostion so it will go one of three ways , a right wing goverment , a left wing goverment or a coalition of chaos, oh for the heady liberal/Tory calm coalition, or the smooth Brown era, post Blair glory years

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    Re: Is the rise of the Tory right a cause for a general election?

    Christ the Major government seem legendary to me at the moment and I’ve nevwr even voted Conservative.

    I wouldn’t say ‘far right’ Eric as that to me is the BNP level etc but they’ve definitely moved to the right and Brexit appears to be some sort of mythical treasure.

    They need to be careful though look what happened to the Nazis when they opened the Ark....( I’m nor calling Tories Nazis it’s a joke 😃)

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    Re: Is the rise of the Tory right a cause for a general election?

    Can't they elect a new PM with the signatures of 50 sitting Tory MP's?

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    Re: Is the rise of the Tory right a cause for a general election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    I bet they are shitting themselves.
    Bring on the Boris then , bash up Johnny foreigner, relaunch the gun boats , take back the world order , rule brittania

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    Re: Is the rise of the Tory right a cause for a general election?

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Bring on the Boris then , bash up Johnny foreigner, relaunch the gun boats , take back the world order , rule brittania
    Nice satire :)

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    Re: Is the rise of the Tory right a cause for a general election?

    Can somebody clarify the Tories can get rid of May without a general election, like what happened with Thatcher?

    I don't think the USA would be sad to see her go, and incidently the US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was in meetings with Boris Johnson last week.

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    Re: Is the rise of the Tory right a cause for a general election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Can somebody clarify the Tories can get rid of May without a general election, like what happened with Thatcher?
    They could, of course. However, if there was a potential challenge, all May has to do is call an election. There's no way the Tories would hold a leadership election during a general election. It's a strong weapon she has.

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    Re: Is the rise of the Tory right a cause for a general election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Can somebody clarify the Tories can get rid of May without a general election, like what happened with Thatcher?

    I don't think the USA would be sad to see her go, and incidently the US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was in meetings with Boris Johnson last week.
    The Tories will not trust May to lead the party in another general election campaign so there will be a leadership election at some point in the next four years. This week's noise is contemplating something sooner rather than later.

    The American Secretary of State met with his counterpart the British Foreign Secretary. Get out of here!

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    Re: Is the rise of the Tory right a cause for a general election?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    The Tories will not trust May to lead the party in another general election campaign so there will be a leadership election at some point in the next four years. This week's noise is contemplating something sooner rather than later.

    The American Secretary of State met with his counterpart the British Foreign Secretary. Get out of here!
    Yes it's true! And you do remember who was home secretary at the time we were spying on well-known American citizens on behalf of President Obama?

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    Re: Is the rise of the Tory right a cause for a general election?

    Smoke and mirrors indeed ,and it's everywhere:

    EU send out were tough soundbite every know and then , are they that tough or In a position of strength ?
    Labour so muted ?
    Tories in fighting ? Or is it clever bluster ?
    The goverment are under no real pressure ,they will saunter onto the next election ,just fixing stuff as they go .

    A by election might pop up Ruth Davidson wins it , will she stand and stick it to em all in her intimate way ?
    Meanwhile Labour may feel they need a change ,younger chap or even more revolutionary ,yes a female ?
    Vince Cable turns 80 at the next election.
    Greens turn off yellow .
    Plaid lady learns Welsh.
    Scotland installs another fishy leader.
    Trump wins second term.
    Netherlands / Austria votes for a Brexit

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    Re: Is the rise of the Tory right a cause for a general election?

    First off May is a Tory. The last thing she would want to risk is the possibility of a Labour Govt. There is zero prospect of another General Election. If there is an attempted coup she will step down. I can’t see her still being PM in 2022.

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    Re: Is the rise of the Tory right a cause for a general election?

    Yes fed by a rise from the left

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    Re: Is the rise of the Tory right a cause for a general election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    First off May is a Tory. The last thing she would want to risk is the possibility of a Labour Govt. There is zero prospect of another General Election. If there is an attempted coup she will step down. I can’t see her still being PM in 2022.
    Think you are right here Pearcey.

    I do0n't think she would want to go down in history as the leader who handed power to a left of centre Labour as could happen.

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    Re: Is the rise of the Tory right a cause for a general election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Think you are right here Pearcey.

    I do0n't think she would want to go down in history as the leader who handed power to a left of centre Labour as could happen.
    Doesn't that label sit with Cameron

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