Corbyn the Cold War spy

[Nick]

Why on earth would anyone vote for this idiot who clearly hates this country.

[CardiffIrish2]

Why on Earth would any idiot believe such a ludicrous story?

[Eric Cartman]

Why on Earth would any idiot believe such a ludicrous story?

Its funny how it mysteriously appears the day after Boris' speech falls flat.

I think people began to switch off to the anti-Corbyn stuff during the last election so it is interesting that CCHQ still perseveres with it as their primary weapon.

[Mrs Steve R]

Why on earth would anyone vote for this idiot who clearly hates this country.

Link?

[Since64]

Why on earth would anyone vote for this idiot who clearly hates this country.

I did,l would,l will.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I would vote for him over the capitalist Tory scum anytime

[Auntie Andy]

Why on earth would anyone vote for this idiot who clearly hates this country.

He is a Privy Councillor which means he has been fully vetted by the security services and is squeaky clean. They are clever people. You are very silly.

[BlueWales]

I wouldn't vote for him as he is pro - brexit. Simple !

Will make it easier for his Russian pals to march in when we are little Britain all alone.

[David Vincent]

Why on earth would anyone vote for this idiot who clearly hates this country.

This story is all about Corbyn refusing to do as he is told by the Israel lobby. Anyone who opposes them will be destroyed.

[Organ Morgan.]

This story is all about Corbyn refusing to do as he is told by the Israel lobby. Anyone who opposes them will be destroyed.

Not the thread's theme but can't be bothered to create a new one. My doom antenna, which is finely tuned, is humming. I predict it's going to kick-off big time in Syria within the next three days. If, and it's a big if, Russia directly engages Yanks or Ashkenazi forces in Assad's defence then we're on for the big one, else a huge Middle East conflict will ensue as Syria/Iran won't allow the partition of the country without a fight.

[Badly Ironed Shirt]

This story is all about Corbyn refusing to do as he is told by the Israel lobby. Anyone who opposes them will be destroyed.

Splott Dai amazingly links this to Israel. What a shocker.

[life on mars]

Don't understand all the fuss, it's quite clear where his politics and allegiances are ,he's not hidden them ,and the story supports that , so let's just move on, vote for him or not ,it's that bloody simple

[life on mars]

The final paragraph makes no sense. All the reasons you list for Corbyn being unqualified make Trump even more so. So why would he be worse?

Th PM of our country has much more power than the president of the USA,.

Trumps only real power is the armed forces , which we may not need if JC comes to power.

[Eric Cartman]

Th PM of our country has much more power than the president of the USA,.

Trumps only real power is the armed forces , which we may not need if JC comes to power.

Unless Corbyn guts the plp then what you are saying is absolutely not true.

[life on mars]

Unless Corbyn guts the plp then what you are saying is absolutely not true.

I think he would gut a lot of things, his anti western ,establishment and big business is well documented , we wont need borders just extra housing, hospitals ,school's and a beafed up welfare bill.

[Keyser Soze]

Why on earth would anyone vote for this idiot who clearly hates this country.

Give it a few years and he'll be out of the way, and this experimental period of immaturity and silliness in British politics will be over. Given time, he will be reviled and laughed at even more than Michael Foot or the hapless Gordon Brown.

It's just a phase that's all. Just a phase. Just a like a fancy new crepe shop that pops up. People think "Oooh that's new let's give it a try." Responses range from "ooh lovely" to "uuurgh that's odd". And eventually the fad or phase goes away. Years later people wonder what the fuss was all about. The only people that don't need to experiment are the ones who know it isn't new and was done all before, decades ago, and resulted in disaster. To them, it is money for old rope. To those who don't remember it they think it's new or novelty. But it's just a phase. Give it time and one way or another, most will come to their senses and he'll barely figure in the annals of history.

[the other bob wilson]

Give it a few years and he'll be out of the way, and this experimental period of immaturity and silliness in British politics will be over. Given time, he will be reviled and laughed at even more than Michael Foot or the hapless Gordon Brown.

It's just a phase that's all. Just a phase. Just a like a fancy new crepe shop that pops up. People think "Oooh that's new let's give it a try." Responses range from "ooh lovely" to "uuurgh that's odd". And eventually the fad or phase goes away. Years later people wonder what the fuss was all about. The only people that don't need to experiment are the ones who know it isn't new and was done all before, decades ago, and resulted in disaster. To them, it is money for old rope. To those who don't remember it they think it's new or novelty. But it's just a phase. Give it time and one way or another, most will come to their senses and he'll barely figure in the annals of history.

Patronising or what?

[the other bob wilson]

Those of us of a certain age have definitely seen it all before, tax and spend, boom and bust, inflation, recession. The problems are always there - they are the issues you have to face when trying to run a country and economy arent they ?.

Anyone else remember the 70's, semi permanent strikes, 3 day weeks, massive wage increases for public sector workers, not being very productive "sick man of Europe" etc triggers inflation etc etc rinse and repeat. That situation had to be fixed, you cant fix that though without some tough choices.

I remember the 80's,90's and then we reset when Blair came back in - spent too much again - same story.

The miners strike was a mistake, but seeing as Scargill would never have a vote on it!! he was not without blame.

Corbyn and Co - at that time - were very much in mould of Che Guevara uber protesting, secondary picketing on behalf of Polish apple pickers etc. So it's without much surprise to hear that a former Czech spy - paid them 10k to speak to them in the hope of gaining information or getting them to adopt a certain policy etc.

Whether Corbyn knew he was a spy etc - will never be established, the problem was that he (Corbyn) was getting paid by them - so potentially he was theirs. The same problem applies somewhat to a lesser extent to Livingstone - who yesterday admitted meeting a KGB spy, who was an under cover reporter.

Case to answer - yes, were they duped into it - probably, are they spies - no I dont think so, maybe a little susceptible to influence perhaps. The real issue being - were they really paid 10k ? - I would thought this was against Parliamentary rules - and what were they paid for ? - I dont think has been addressed.

I think that's a particularly one eyed interpretation of British politics over the past forty years, but you're entitled to your opinion and that's fine - you said what you did in a way that didn't come across like a world weary teacher talking down to their pupils.

[Badly Ironed Shirt]

Patronising or what?

I thought he was being hopeful. Corbyn is the next PM, not even Murdoch can save May now. Before the last election, the thought of Corbyn being PM didn't fill me with much hope. Now, I am as desperate to see him as PM as I have been for anyone in my lifetime.

[Eric Cartman]

As said Corbyn seems to be an ideological idiot, that couldnt run a bath let alone a country.
It's the people behind Corbyn I find quite sinister, the creeping anti jewishness, the momentum short listing and de selection threat. The promise to spend 250 BILLION over 10 years.

To say they are way too far to the left is an understatement ... so not my bag, I just fear that the dreamers out there are being hood winked by it, just like I was by the union campaigns of the 80's.

Not overtly fussed on the conservatives at the moment either - so very little choice at the moment. The only saving grace is that even with the conservatives getting distracted by Brexit etc - Labour still seem to be in complete disarray, a front bench that no one likes, and all the talent Labour did have has been replaced by amateur at best, politicians.

Keir Staman - I have time for, Dianne Abbott - I switch off now, Chuka - is a choker - when he had the chance he cited press intrusion - although that problem never seems to stop him popping up on every news program these days.

Back to the 3 spies, it seems they were all used for information - and paid for providing it - I doubt we'll have a Trump / FBI style interrogation though

The founder and chairman of momentum is Jewish. You can read a lot about him in the right wing tabloid press, he is typified as a money grabbing Jewish champagne socialist (which obviously isn't anti-Semitic at all).

Which bits of the manifesto were far-left in your opinion? Labour are beyond far left at the minute so it isn't a difficult question for you to answer.

[Keyser Soze]

The founder and chairman of momentum is Jewish. You can read a lot about him in the right wing tabloid press, he is typified as a money grabbing Jewish champagne socialist (which obviously isn't anti-Semitic at all).

Which bits of the manifesto were far-left in your opinion? Labour are beyond far left at the minute so it isn't a difficult question for you to answer.

Now that Raul Castro has stood down in Cuba, perhaps Jeeremy Corbyn ought to die his beard a latino-dark colour and change citizenship. He can then help move Cuba to the right.

[Eric Cartman]

Labour Party has three separate “categories” of anti-Semitism but has “a lot of denial” that the problem exists, the founder of the Corbynite group Momentum has admitted.

Jon Lansman, who is himself Jewish, said Labour must do more to “stamp out” anti-Semitism in the party, though he said there is no “one size fits all” solution to the problem.

Antisemitism inside Labour must be dealt with despite a “lot of denial” that the party has a problem, the founder of the pro-Corbyn group Momentum said yesterday.

Speaking at a Jewish cultural festival, Jon Lansman (went to private school - so a good socialist then) said that there were three categories of prejudice towards Jewish people within the party, ranging from “petty remarks about big noses” to “blood libel”.

Seems to me - like the Leader of Momentum and Corbyn's bum licker in chief thinks there is a problem

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...tism-9c7j2ptn2

"Unlike some on the hard Left, Lansman has been willing to admit that Labour has a problem with anti-Semitism"
https://www.timesofisrael.com/jeremy...-labour-party/

I seem to remember you calling someone a member of the Gestapo (Nazi secret Police) last week

I am not sure Mr Lansman had much control over where he went to school. I am also not sure what the point of any of that is. I know nothing of the inner workings of the Labour party as i am not a member, they probably do have a problem. It feels like you were trying to avoid the question.

I'll try again.

Which bits of the manifesto were far-left in your opinion? Labour are beyond far left at the minute so it isn't a difficult question for you to answer.

[Eric Cartman]

Now that Raul Castro has stood down in Cuba, perhaps Jeeremy Corbyn ought to die his beard a latino-dark colour and change citizenship. He can then help move Cuba to the right.

I thought political satire was meant to be easy in these days of Corbyn, Trump and brexit.

Question is open to you too.

[Keyser Soze]

I thought political satire was meant to be easy in these days of Corbyn, Trump and brexit.

Question is open to you too.

What question?

[Eric Cartman]

What question?

This one that was for ninianclark:

Which bits of the manifesto were far-left in your opinion? Labour are beyond far left at the minute so it isn't a difficult question for you to answer.

I hear very often that Labour are a far left party, I don't really see it. There are questions to be asked of it's leadership and momentum certainly but beyond John McDonnell saying the occasional silly thing (that they could never realistically put into practice as government) the majority of what they push are popular ideas (centre/left of centre).

This approach is becoming really common in politics (and really really common on here), presenting someones opinion as polarised for effect - Far right/Far left, it is the main thing that inhibits meaningful debate.