Etheridge 8
Manga 7
Morrison 9
Bamba 7
Bennett 7
Ralls 7
Gujic 7
Paterson 7
Hoilett 7
Ken 8
Traore 8
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Etheridge 8
Manga 7
Morrison 9
Bamba 7
Bennett 7
Ralls 7
Gujic 7
Paterson 7
Hoilett 7
Ken 8
Traore 8
I’d probably up Patterson by .5 and downgrade Manga .5
For a person who commands much respect for his insightful and in-depth knowledge of the game Bob, this is a very naive question you pose.Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Etheridge having little to do?
It seems your idea of a keeper having something to do is based on miraculous saves and umpteen shots stopped.
If we would have got beaten 2 nil with Etheridge making half a dozen saves including a penalty then he might be deserving of a 7.5 or an 8 or even a 9.
A goalkeeper forms part of a defensive unit with the defenders in whatever formation is set up. One cannot wax lyrical about any particular defender, in the case of your blog Morrison who I agree has been immense this season by the way, without giving the mainstay behind him any credit.
Each defender deserves credit (even Bruno although not a wing back)... they kept a clean sheet.
The way Etheridge performed yesterday, keeping his concentration, assured in the air and seemingly anonymous was to be admired.
The communication, position and general confidence a keeper exudes is just as important as a great save as it allows the players in front of him to not have to even think, for example, a back pass in a tricky situation, and concentrate on their own game.
Just referring to your blog, I felt very different from you in that I could not relax until that final whistle.
I must confess I did feel pretty nervy, albeit the last 10 minutes or so.
How many times have we seen accomplished keepers "throw one in" over the years, Peter Enckelmann in the cup final still haunts me!
Out of interest, how many points would you give our number 1?
Exactly, to give the keeper 6 out of 10 when he more than played his part in an excellent team performance against a good ‘Boro team is somewhat odd. He did very well, he commanded his area, as has been said by another poster and rarely looked troubled. I guess that because he didn’t feature in one minute and three seconds of match highlights, then that counts against him.
So why wasn't Etheridge getting praise earlier in the season when we had the best defensive record in the league and he was making more saves than he had to yesterday? Surely he was doing all of the things you talk about then and yet there were plenty around who weren't sure about him at that time.
I mentioned earlier that I would have given Etheridge six for yesterday's game - that's not with the intention of being critical of him in any way, but that's what I think someone who is good at what they do should have when they have as easy a game as he did yesterday.
I agree with this, especially the latter.
I have always banged the drum for Bruno and I still think he is a very good player, but an attacking right back he is not.
Not wishing to be critical of anyone, especially after a good battling team performance but he got into two great positions in the second half and fluffed his lines miserably.
The first was when our forwards attacked a great cross from the left and the ball fell to him just inside the box and he hit it first time and skied it. He had time and space to control it and get a decent shot off.
The second was a really poorly executed cross from a good position which went straight out, miles over the bar.
Then defensively he was caught out too high up when Downing picked the ball up in his own half, ran with it and luckily for us shot wide.
We were better when Peltier came on and Bruno moved inside but that was tactical to protect our lead.
IMO it's difficult to drop Manga but unless NW plays 3 central at the back (alongside Sol and Mozza) with 2 wing backs, he may struggle to fit in.
It could work if Sol played just in front of a back four but it would be dependant on the opposition.
As I said, it is hard to be too critical, especially as they were limited to very few oppprtunities, but those few things could have been costly in such a tight game.
See Etheridge got 7.5 in one of the threads on this subject and 8 in this one, my question is why? He had barely anything to do.
He was dominate and immaculate with his catching when under extreme pressure during several set pieces. His fellow defenders must have been made up by his presence - while Pulis tore his hair out when his main attacking option was nullified.
So give Etheridge a NINE!
He was dominate and immaculate with his catching when under extreme pressure during several set pieces. His fellow defenders must have been made up by his presence - while Pulis tore his hair out when his main attacking option was nullified.
So give Etheridge a NINE!
He kept a clean sheet and dealt with everything he had to do impeccably. What mark would you have given for his performance yesterday, out of interest.
Also, these duplicate threads are doing my head in.......
Six, we were so good defensively that, unlike in some recent matches, he had an easy time of it and did not have to do anything you wouldn't expect him to.
I like the fact he's not afraid to go into a crowd of players to get the ball or that he catches the ball when almost every other keeper these days will punch it. He relieves so much pressure off the defence when he does this.
Admittedly he didn't have a lot to do yesterday but what he did was to a high standard.
He's a big lad, mind. And he gave the ball some wellie yesterday....
I guess based on his handling of crosses which was excellent and kicking, which is improving.
Also sometimes people give 7 for a run of the mill performance- others give 5 or 6
I remember flicking through a gazzeta della sport once and looking at their ratings. In all the games, down to Serie C, there were more ratings of 2, 3 and 4 than 5, 6 or 7. Some players got 0. The highest I saw was 8 and that player scored a hat-trick.
I thought he was very commanding to be fair Bob. He has grown so much in stature this season that he now has so much confidence in coming to claim some tricky crosses towards the end. Most keepers would have elected to punch a few of them but he took the pressure off and allowed us to get up the field.
But he had hardly anything to do!!!
But what he did do he did well. So stop carping and give the lad his due.
Have you seen L'equipe? It's ridiculous
I was about to mention this. I think their player of the season averaged 6.4 or something. If you get above a 5, you’ve done extremely well!
Good in the air when he was needed.
Kicked well all game, second half I noticed a few times we would play it back to Etheridge and he was cool and calm and placed the kick well up the pitch.
I'd happily score him a 7 maybe even a 7.5
I also think Manga coped well at RB. the time he was caught out of position he was coming back from an attack, as a unit Morrison was there to cover him (as Manga knew he would be)
Agree Peltier is better suited out there, but he wasn't without fault in his cameo. He gave away a silly foul not long after coming on right on the left hand side of the area (looking from family stand)
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Controversial opinion - Etheridge is a more complete goalkeeper than Marshall ever was for us.
Marshall was a great shot stopper (you’d hope all gks would be) but he never commanded his box that well.
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