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Imagine the headlines, bit like the Oxfam stuff, if these deeds were carried out by fat cat right wing Tories .
I knew you would be here making some half-baked point about right/left, you actually think this won't get reported or talked about because he is seen as left wing? Absolute nonsense.Originally Posted by life on mars
Makes me wonder just how much stuff is covered up. Unfortunately these unrelenting scandals have dragged by mind to the point where when an allegation is made about someone high profile I presume guilt.
Cox sounds an arsehole and will get what’s coming to him. I feel sorry for the kids bless them.
I think you’ll find there will be plenty of headlines tomorrow to ensure that it’s at the forefront of public thinking and that the right wingers ‘it’s only us the liberal elite pick on ‘ will have plenty to read .
Can't get to sleep without your bedtime story princess?[B] I know politics is a bit rough and tumble, but feckin hell mun , what a bunch of sexist, racist, anti-semitic, drug taking, rent boy using bullies - they are out doing the Tories here by miles[/B
One good turn deserves another, just in case you missed it. The Tories have more than their fair share, Labour / Tories is like the city and Derby at the moment.
Is this the point when you start talking about grindr and cocks etc
As a life long socialist I find it hard to come to terms with these current behaviours and principles .
I know a percentage of politicians from either side of the political divide have moral issues or distorted viewpoints , I'm just shocked to the core of the differences we see of the current occupants of the present Labour party , somehow I felt they were better than most , hence my voting intentions were always inclined to them .
Julia Hartley-Brewer (not a fan) tweeted that everyone in Westminster and in the media knew what he was like. Why do they always keep it to themselves? The establishment in this country stinks or maybe it is a case of 'glass houses'?
Humans are selfish and greedy.
You are like a broken record with this defending of the Tories .....yet still cry likes wolf that you are not one .....it's laughable
As for this bloke he should be ashamed of himself
This bloke doesn't vote Tory , honest !!
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Ninian, you forgot to include this. Just helping you out mate. I know how you like to be balanced
Cecil Parkinson.
Nothing new happening in politics. Same old thing.
Silly men abusing their power.
A standing prick has no conscience as someone once remarked.
Aye saucy Cecil .........never forget him thanking his wife Anne for standing by him ...yeah right ....after the news of his affair broke ......poor woman looked awful as the fawning assembled Tory faithful clapped
Ah yes Trump’s America where kids get shot in schools and the answers are thoughts and prayers and pass me that cheque from the NRA. Where as cuts are given to millionaires paid for by an increase in debt in years to come.
Yep, sounds marvellous
He’s such an outsider with his promotion of that small business lobby called the NRA.
Don’t forget the multi million or even billion pound industry of tv Evangelism.
God Guns and Trump, yeeee haaawww
I agree it was aborning Brendan Cox, I was responding to yet another post by Wales Bales shoe horning DT into something virtuous.
As for the previous presidents. Yes that’s true, but when then the current incumbent suggests arming teachers as a response then somethings ****ed up.
Brendan Cox is an utter Bell end as I said I feel so sorry for himself kids
Trump is integral to this story, as he's going after the traffickers. These charity cases are not isolated incidents, you are looking at organised global networks here.
Sign of the times Mambo, 40 years ago this was going on at business dinners, in politicians office, backstage of tv show's. There wasn't such a thing as inappropriate behaviour or language back then (for men anyway). The constant tenuous links to the Labour party from the Daily Mail and its sister publication ninianclark - seem a bit facile and immature when taken into context of the wider story.
The children's and families minister attended a dinner where women were paid to flirt with, dance with, talk dirty to and probably in some circumstances sleep with men because of their status - how ****ed up is that?! He got a 'dressing down' - was that by one of the girls? Sex scandals covered up weekly by a whole host of organisations and seemingly no principles or morals to be found anywhere amongst the upper echelons of British society.
Ordinary people seem to have moved on from our caveman past a lot quicker than our 'brightest and best'. Look at the culprits or just spend your time linking everything to the Labour party if that makes you happy.
If you looked very closely you would see it's also a blackmail thing.
Read the Tom Bowers book on Gordon Brown. Nothing funny about it. It was a deliberate startegy to stuff NGOs, quangos and charities with Labourites. In return for making a lot of political noise many of them receiveced additional funding and nods of political agreement for big salaries. Plenty of evidence in there and perfectly legal. But of course, completely immoral to use charitable bodies for political tools. It's only quite right that these creeps are now being purged.
I agree with most of that. It can be tit for tat and I don't really have a problem with saying Corbyn isn't a leader, Diane Abbott is a smidgen from being a bit racist and John McDonnell is an ideological hothead.
But when the right-leaning press (and we both know the guardian is not the leftist equivalent of the mail and express) say Corbyn wants us to be like Venezuela or McDonnell wants to crush business it isn't reporting in the public interest, just ideological driven 'fake news' (I hate that term).
It feels like they realise the fight is lost on the issue of austerity, it hasn't worked so they need to go for the man. The left are in the same position at a different point on the timeline, they have always felt that they can't win the argument (or war of propaganda) so they have always gone for the man ('i hate tories').
But in an era where people are encouraged by the political classes to ignore facts, figures and forecasts because they don't suit their native we stand no chance of keeping the discussion to policy.
Regarding the comment 'certain parties supporters' trying to deny free speech I think it is a more complex issue. Every discussion involving brexit on Qt for months has been drowned out by disgruntled and angry leavers booing and shouting down anywhere that dare give their opinion about the negotiation or the decision in general. We can probably safely assume they aren't lib Dems but they could be from Labour or the Tories.
I feel very sorry for the kids and Jo Cox’s parents. As for Brendan Cox what a pitiful character he is.
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