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Thread: Lee Johnson - it really was Darth Maul versus Obi-Wan wasn't it?

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    Lee Johnson - it really was Darth Maul versus Obi-Wan wasn't it?

    Whether playground fight, a boardroom battle or a battle scene, the pattern is the same. The older pro of sound training and experience versus the cocky young upstart of incomplete training. You’ve seen it all before.

    The latter hasn’t yet learned the deep and dark arts of psychology and mind games. What does he do? He shouts and wails and throws stones. To himself he believes this is a sign of confidence. He believes it to be intimidating or unsettling. A flagpole of bravado. The guy who has been around the block a few times who has learned his lessons over the years sees it exactly for what it is – a feeble attempt to reassure himself, knowing the pressure cooker is about to be turned on. The old pro stays calms, keeps his cards close to his chest. The element of surprise, backed by patience and careful planning is far more effective than a load of yelling at fresh air.

    As predicted, the young puffed up junior got his second lesson of the season against the old masters on Saturday. Steve Bruce's Aston Villa gave him a lesson at 5-0 a few months back. Listening to Johnson's response to the defeat back then I found his response to the defeat ridiculous, and so did many in the sporting press. Again, this really was a case of the young upstart showing his youthfulness. Overtly confident, inwardly self-doubftul, short on experience he succumbed to the much wiser and much better trained. Trap set. Little rat caught. Game over.

    For Lee Johnson, if he is to really be the up-and-coming star manager the strange folk over the Severn Bridge believe him to be, then his best use of time will now be to study the mistakes of former coaches and managers in the game, because he is clearly repeating them and failing at each important hurdle because of it. Coaching licences only teach you a way to delivering coaching sessions, some content, tactics, nutrition and some sport psychology at the higher level. They don't teach you experiences and failures of others. In any career of choice, there is nothing wrong with making new mistakes, but you can save yourself a lof of time by reading about the historic mistakes of those that have gone before you and to avoid them. To repeat them is basic folly and a costly exercise. History is a great teacher, for those who pay attention to it. Johnson doesn't appear yet to have dipped into that well of knowledge.

    His mistakes this season, and a repeated one again on the weekend against us, proves a point that I made in a post leading up to the game. He is not yet displaying the qualities required to be a regular winner. Cardiff City v Bristol City, Warnock versus Johnson, really was a case of Obi-Wan against a half trained Darth Maul. And for the odd folk across the bridge, they certainly got Mauled.

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    Re: Lee Johnson - it really was Darth Maul versus Obi-Wan wasn't it?

    Good post.

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    Re: Lee Johnson - it really was Darth Maul versus Obi-Wan wasn't it?

    Nice post.

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    Re: Lee Johnson - it really was Darth Maul versus Obi-Wan wasn't it?

    Given the size on Johnson and the bollox he talks isn't he a bit more 'Yoda'

    'Productivity we have'

    'World class pressing we perform'

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    Re: Lee Johnson - it really was Darth Maul versus Obi-Wan wasn't it?

    I liked the post, just not sure that Obi wan and Darth Maul are the best metaphor.

    When they fought in the phantom menace, Obi Wan was still a padwan - he was only made a Jedi Knight afterwards.
    Darth Maul also took on Obi Wan and Qui-gon Jinn and defeated the latter who certainly was fully trained and experienced.

    I'm sure there's a better one out there, maybe one of the rocky films?

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    Re: Lee Johnson - it really was Darth Maul versus Obi-Wan wasn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I liked the post, just not sure that Obi wan and Darth Maul are the best metaphor.

    When they fought in the phantom menace, Obi Wan was still a padwan - he was only made a Jedi Knight afterwards.
    Darth Maul also took on Obi Wan and Qui-gon Jinn and defeated the latter who certainly was fully trained and experienced.

    I'm sure there's a better one out there, maybe one of the rocky films?
    Anakin v Obi-Wan in Revenge of the Sith would be more appropriate. Luke v Vader Empire Strikes Back

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    Re: Lee Johnson - it really was Darth Maul versus Obi-Wan wasn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Anakin v Obi-Wan in Revenge of the Sith would be more appropriate. Luke v Vader Empire Strikes Back
    How about Anakin v Darth Tyr***** ?

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    Re: Lee Johnson - it really was Darth Maul versus Obi-Wan wasn't it?

    Good piece

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    Re: Lee Johnson - it really was Darth Maul versus Obi-Wan wasn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Anakin v Obi-Wan in Revenge of the Sith would be more appropriate. Luke v Vader Empire Strikes Back
    Yes those are much better

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    Re: Lee Johnson - it really was Darth Maul versus Obi-Wan wasn't it?

    I was thinking more of Top Cat versus Officer Dibble!

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    Re: Lee Johnson - it really was Darth Maul versus Obi-Wan wasn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post
    Whether playground fight, a boardroom battle or a battle scene, the pattern is the same. The older pro of sound training and experience versus the cocky young upstart of incomplete training. You’ve seen it all before.

    The latter hasn’t yet learned the deep and dark arts of psychology and mind games. What does he do? He shouts and wails and throws stones. To himself he believes this is a sign of confidence. He believes it to be intimidating or unsettling. A flagpole of bravado. The guy who has been around the block a few times who has learned his lessons over the years sees it exactly for what it is – a feeble attempt to reassure himself, knowing the pressure cooker is about to be turned on. The old pro stays calms, keeps his cards close to his chest. The element of surprise, backed by patience and careful planning is far more effective than a load of yelling at fresh air.

    As predicted, the young puffed up junior got his second lesson of the season against the old masters on Saturday. Steve Bruce's Aston Villa gave him a lesson at 5-0 a few months back. Listening to Johnson's response to the defeat back then I found his response to the defeat ridiculous, and so did many in the sporting press. Again, this really was a case of the young upstart showing his youthfulness. Overtly confident, inwardly self-doubftul, short on experience he succumbed to the much wiser and much better trained. Trap set. Little rat caught. Game over.

    For Lee Johnson, if he is to really be the up-and-coming star manager the strange folk over the Severn Bridge believe him to be, then his best use of time will now be to study the mistakes of former coaches and managers in the game, because he is clearly repeating them and failing at each important hurdle because of it. Coaching licences only teach you a way to delivering coaching sessions, some content, tactics, nutrition and some sport psychology at the higher level. They don't teach you experiences and failures of others. In any career of choice, there is nothing wrong with making new mistakes, but you can save yourself a lof of time by reading about the historic mistakes of those that have gone before you and to avoid them. To repeat them is basic folly and a costly exercise. History is a great teacher, for those who pay attention to it. Johnson doesn't appear yet to have dipped into that well of knowledge.

    His mistakes this season, and a repeated one again on the weekend against us, proves a point that I made in a post leading up to the game. He is not yet displaying the qualities required to be a regular winner. Cardiff City v Bristol City, Warnock versus Johnson, really was a case of Obi-Wan against a half trained Darth Maul. And for the odd folk across the bridge, they certainly got Mauled.
    Great post! Fantastic read

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