Traffic cops, ambulance staff, hospitals , highways workers

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Now you’re being silly. The thread was about saluting a few people who are working extraordinarily hard tonight in adverse conditions. It’s not a dig at anyone or some subtle dig at private sector workers and the ‘evil corporations’ they work for

So spare us your false ****ing faux outrage eh?

It's not outrage. You are well versed in Sludges MO. Anything public sector = good. Anything private sector = bad.

There are a lot of people out there doing a great job, across a wide variety of disciplines.

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Every self employed treadesperson I know was in the pub by 1 today.

I've not mentioned the self employed. But good for them. I imagine there were a few others in there too.

I take it those who work in the service sector such as pubs, aren't actually providing the public with a service, according to some.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Without wanting to derail the thread, if you look at public say pay increases over 21 years it's greater than inflation for the same period. You can pick and choose any stat to support your own point of view

So what are the results if you look at public pay increases over the last 10 years?

Stop being a prick and trying to bash public sector workers as you are fond of doing.

[dembethewarrior]

I've not mentioned the self employed. But good for them. I imagine there were a few others in there too.

I take it those who work in the service sector such as pubs, aren't actually providing the public with a service, according to some.

And the OP didn't mention gas fitters and people working at evil corporations.

Cheers.

[MacAdder]

You give a few decent people a little pat on the back and world war three breaks out

Sludge, look what you've started mun!

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So what are the results if you look at public pay increases over the last 10 years?

Stop being a prick and trying to bash public sector workers as you are fond of doing.

????

It wasn't me who started with the selective period. There was a reason 8 years was mentioned initially. Likewise there was a reason I referred to 21 years. Since one period has seen a contraction in real terms and the other period an expansion, how do we know if public sector pay has been expanding or contracting?

I've not actually said anything about public sector workers. I was questioning the selective use of stats.

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And the OP didn't mention gas fitters and people working at evil corporations.

Cheers.

Exactly. You've made my point for me. On nights like this they are equally as important

[Eric the Half a Bee]

????

It wasn't me who started with the selective period. There was a reason 8 years was mentioned initially. Likewise there was a reason I referred to 21 years. Since one period has seen a contraction in real terms and the other period an expansion, how do we know if public sector pay has been expanding or contracting?

I've not actually said anything about public sector workers. I was questioning the selective use of stats.

Once a Tory....

[CardiffIrish2]

Because it's not just the public sector doing it. Tomorrow when the shelves at your supermarket are restocked, thank the pixies for doing it. When the trains that do run get going, be grateful for the fairies.

You are being a dick looking for attention. As had been repeatedly said nobody is besmirching those individuals inthose jobs.
The likes of the Police and ambulance service and NHS may well be dealing with fatalities tonight but hopefully more then that keeping people safe.

You’ve turned it Into some outraged Daily Mail reader rant and bringing in politics about pay rises.

Have a word with yourself, you sound ridiculous

[dembethewarrior]

Exactly. You've made my point for me. On nights like this they are equally as important

As you have made mine.

[Blooburd]

Again you show yourself to be the stupidest and most ignorant man on this board.

ahem...you cant just go throwing titles like that around so cheaply.. :(

[Eric the Half a Bee]

ahem...you cant just go throwing titles like that around so cheaply.. :(

Sorry if you feel robbed.

[Blooburd]

Sorry if you feel robbed.

if he buys me flowers than all is forgiven

[CardiffIrish2]

It's not outrage. You are well versed in Sludges MO. Anything public sector = good. Anything private sector = bad.

There are a lot of people out there doing a great job, across a wide variety of disciplines.

Not at all pal, it’s true trust I’m an ex cop with 14 years service but I’m now in the private sector earning more then what I did for an easier job in regards to my health and welfare.

I’m not one is good and one is bad, I’ve worked with hard workers on both sectors.

So before you go getting pissy I wasn’t as you can see slagging one out very the other.

Unlike you and your strop.

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You are being a dick looking for attention. As had been repeatedly said nobody is besmirching those individuals inthose jobs.
The likes of the Police and ambulance service and NHS may well be dealing with fatalities tonight but hopefully more then that keeping people safe.

You’ve turned it Into some outraged Daily Mail reader rant and bringing in politics about pay rises.

Have a word with yourself, you sound ridiculous

Ive done no such thing. All i asked was why such jobs werent mentioned - it's as if they aren't important.

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Not at all pal, it’s true trust I’m an ex cop with 14 years service but I’m now in the private sector earning more then what I did for an easier job in regards to my health and welfare.

I’m not one is good and one is bad, I’ve worked with hard workers on both sectors.

So before you go getting pissy I wasn’t as you can see slagging one out very the other.

Unlike you and your strop.

I've tried really hard to work out what you are trying to say with your penultimate paragraph but I just cant. I take it they didn't have a written exam at Hendon.

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You’re missing the point though, salaried workers are staying home tomorrow and will get paid the ones going in are doing it for more than just money as they’d still get the same if they stayed home.

There’s nothing wrong with just working for a living anyway, I do if i had an excuse to stay home tomorrow I would. But this shows even if they do work for money, it isn’t the only reason because they could easily sack tomorrow off.

You want have it both ways .

On one hand you are saying those who make it in to cover shifts are angels (presumbly to cover those who can't make it in), whereas those who stay at home (because they are salaried and don't need to get in) don't have the same obligation.

It surely follows that the public sector workers who cannot get in, and thus needs his shift covered, is in the same boat as the other stay at home salaried workers.

There will be plenty of workers from both sectors doing their normal jobs tomorrow.

[CardiffIrish2]

I've tried really hard to work out what you are trying to say with your penultimate paragraph but I just cant. I take it they didn't have a written exam at Hendon.

Phone screen broken so hence my typos.

My point being is that the OP started a thread saluting the ordinary people in the public sector doing their job tonight in adverse weather the like of which is rarely seen here.

You throughout have interjected with ‘what about this, what about that and then accused me of saying public sector all good private sector all bad. Which was ironic nonsense on your part as you’ve constantly expressed faux outrage.

Extremely childish and most others on here I’d say think you’re looking a bit silly.

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Phone screen broken so hence my typos.

My point being is that the OP started a thread saluting the ordinary people in the public sector doing their job tonight in adverse weather the like of which is rarely seen here.

You throughout have interjected with ‘what about this, what about that and then accused me of saying public sector all good private sector all bad. Which was ironic nonsense on your part as you’ve constantly expressed faux outrage.

Extremely childish and most others on here I’d say think you’re looking a bit silly.

Its not faux outrage, youre well aware of sludge's stance.

The UK comes to a standstill whenever we have a little bit of snow. It makes you wonder how Canada, Norway and Switzerland all manage. They just get on with it, why can't we? I've been out in it several times today and tonight. If you drive for the conditions you will be alright.

[lardy]

Its not faux outrage, youre well aware of sludge's stance.

The UK comes to a standstill whenever we have a little bit of snow. It makes you wonder how Canada, Norway and Switzerland all manage. They just get on with it, why can't we? I've been out in it several times today and tonight. If you drive for the conditions you will be alright.

You must surely know the answer to that question.

[David Vincent]

There's much fawning nonsense to be found in this thread.

The primary reason all public sector wallahs, along with all the private sector wallahs, choose to do the jobs they do is for dough. Some may have and many pretend to have other more altruistic reasons which are more important to them than the filthy lucre, but don't be fooled because they are all money mercenaries first and last as pay and pension contributions is their true motivator.

Save your admiration for those volunteers who exchange their time and labour for no monetary gain.

As usual you are right Organ. I was careful to omit the determiner in that sentence.

I needed help last night, but I didn't see any of the selfless angels mentioned on this thread. It was nearly midnight and my internet connection had gone. I like to watch a bit of lesbian porn before I go to sleep. It relaxes me and helps me get to sleep. I rang up Virgin but I just got some silly Indian asking me about lights on my modem. "You can stuff all that bollux", I said. "Just send a repairman around pronto." And then I slammed the phone down and waited for the Virgin van. We had a lot of snow but I thought he'd be able to make it up the hill with snow chains. After half an hour he hadn't turned up so I was going to give Virgin another bollocking on the blower when remembered I'd unplugged the modem to do a bit of hoovering. Do you know what? I thought I'd test Virgin anyway to see how long they would take to come. They never turned up. Disgusting I call it.

[Blooburd]

As usual you are right Organ. I was careful to omit the determiner in that sentence.

I needed help last night, but I didn't see any of the selfless angels mentioned on this thread. It was nearly midnight and my internet connection had gone. I like to watch a bit of lesbian porn before I go to sleep. It relaxes me and helps me get to sleep. I rang up Virgin but I just got some silly Indian asking me about lights on my modem. "You can stuff all that bollux", I said. "Just send a repairman around pronto." And then I slammed the phone down and waited for the Virgin van. We had a lot of snow but I thought he'd be able to make it up the hill with snow chains. After half an hour he hadn't turned up so I was going to give Virgin another bollocking on the blower when remembered I'd unplugged the modem to do a bit of hoovering. Do you know what? I thought I'd test Virgin anyway to see how long they would take to come. They never turned up. Disgusting I call it.

appalling, my heart goes out to you

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You must surely know the answer to that question.

We aren't geared up for it. If we want those extra services on tap we need to pay more in tax.

[BlueArmy 86]

I struggled dragging my drunken father home through the snow from the pub tonight, and two seperate men saw me struggling and helped along the way, and that made a huge difference. There are still good people about!

[the other bob wilson]

ah, they don't count, do they ?

I posted a because I thought this was completely the wrong type of thread for him to carry on his boring, decade or more long, campaign against the public sector and the people who work in it.