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  1. #1

    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    Firefighters wont be touching it, I'll give you a clue - it's the guys and gals in the brightly coloured suits and wellies that handle it

    Rumour has it the same suits will be worn by The Arsenal when they play CSK Moscow in the champions league 1/4 finals.

    I see that the Russian who was his mate has been murdered as well..... that was probably another random attack on a Russian
    But it’s the most deadliest chemical in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    Why dont you read up on the delivery method, how it becomes active, absorption into the body, half life of the compounds etc.

    The advice by PHE was use baby wipes and wash your clothes , or you could just try breathing in deeply and see how you get on
    Wow thanks for your advice

  3. #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    Incredible

  4. #4

    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    Firefighters wont be touching it, I'll give you a clue - it's the guys and gals in the brightly coloured suits and wellies that handle it
    How's the doctor doing who gave mouth to mouth resuscitation at the scene?

  5. #5

    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...wel-in-history

    On a similar subject, here is an extract about the litvinenko murder, fascinating details.

  6. #6

    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by jackrabbit View Post
    I heard an interview on SKY TV with the former President of Georgia, Mikheil Saakashvili, victim of an assasination attempt a few years ago.
    He said that it was certain that Putin personally signed off the attack in Salisbury, encouraged by the weak U.K. response to the Litvinenko murder
    Furthermore, the agent used was deliberately high-profile as a warning to other double agents, and to the West, of Russia's intent and lead in such weaponry.
    The last time Saakashvili met Putin in the Kremlin, the Russian leader's parting remark was: " The West promises many good things but doesn't deliver, we don't promise good things but we deliver"!
    We have been warned.

    Oh, and we should have expelled 24 not 23 - to include Corbyn, it's where his true loyalties lie - always against the West.
    This is like a Cardiff city transfer story. Everybody is suddenly ITK. Most of the people saying 'it was definitely Russia' have completely contradicted each other when trying to explain why they think that.

  7. #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    This is like a Cardiff city transfer story. Everybody is suddenly ITK. Most of the people saying 'it was definitely Russia' have completely contradicted each other when trying to explain why they think that.
    Has anybody asked Christopher Steele if he is acquainted with any of these Russians who are coming under attack?

  8. #8

    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    All these bloody ITK people eh Eric, why not put us all right and tell us what really happened.

    A good listen here from Radio 4, they do cover Salisbury and some very interesting political responses etc https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09v8xwg
    You are obsessed with me Mambo, it's embarrassing.

    It's just an observation that everyone agreeing on something for completely opposing reasons doesn't inspire me with a great deal of confidence. In the last two days I have read 'Russia used nerve agent because they thought we wouldn't be able to detect it' and 'Russia used nerve agent because they knew we would be able to detect it'.

    I don't know either way but everybody seems to want to pretend that they do.

  9. #9

    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    Including you Eric.

    If you listen to that link I posted - around the 12minute mark Ken Clarke sums it up perfectly , exactly why someone would use nerve gas to kill someone rather than a bullet. And exposes in a parody the naivety of Corbyn and the other 1960's lefties of their love for the socialist utopia - that never materialised.
    Where have I tried to offer any kind of explanation for what happened?

    The truth here is Mrs May speaks and your tail wags.

  10. #10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    As eloquent as always Eric, so I might as well add to it

    Corbyn speaks and all you ask is how far he wants to stick his c0ck up your @rse
    Get a grip Mambo

    Corbyn? I am not sure I have ever praised him, you are the one that brings every topic back to him (while saying how irrelevant he is - irony). Just continue seeing what you want to see, anything else might make your brain explode.

  11. #11

    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    Eric has a nerve been touched bend over sunshine and let Jezza pop your cherry again, you big leftie lovey.
    Peter Hitchens, who is not exactly a "leftie lovey", says in The Mail today that the attacks on Corbyn are disgraceful and frightening. His article is headed "The 'patriotic' thought police came for Corbyn. You are next".

    Hitchens writes that this intolerance and group thought makes him frightened for his own safety and he points out that Corbyn has a better record on foreign policy than anyone in Parliament.

    Most of you are being led by the nose into war by a treacherous elite. Honestly, you are just thick.

  12. #12

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    Russia expels 23 British diplomats. At least they know how bloody angry we are though.

  13. #13

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    There was an interview this morning on Radio 4 with Tom Tugendhat MP where he was allowed to make ridiculous claims about Putin without being challenged. He said Putin had hundreds of billions of dollars invested abroad – i.e. he is several times richer than Bezos, Gates,etc. He has used nerve agents in the Russian Federation. He has been murdering "activists and journalists" for 20 years. The interviewer after listening to these absurd claims then said shouldn't we be doing more to get this information to the Russian people. There is no objective journalism at the BBC. It is non-stop propaganda.

    Tom Tugendhat was only elected in 2015 and now he is already the Chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee. It is frightening that someone who can make irrational comments like the above is now being seen as a future Conservative leader.

    The "Putin is the richest man in the world" story was put about by Bill Browder. The book about him in the following link will tell you all you need to know about the Browder. It also gives a great insight into how so much money was stolen from Russia under Yeltsin.

    https://dxczjjuegupb.cloudfront.net/...yout_6x9-1.pdf

    This is a bit about Alex Krainer, the author of the above book, who is a hedge fund manager. Browder is so powerful that he blocks any article that shows his true colours – he is very dangerous – so these links might disappear soon.

    https://thesaker.is/cooperative-auth...-by-the-saker/

    This is a very good article by a barrister about Litvinenko.

    https://off-guardian.org/2018/03/17/...itish-justice/

    Those of us on here who are still have working brains know that the chemical attacks in Syria were false flag operations. I think the people behind the Salisbury incident have screwed up and we will get to the truth. There were no unbiased observers in Syria to check the facts but there are now too many people asking questions about Salisbury for the truth to remain hidden. I think when the truth comes out it will bring down this government.

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    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by David Vincent View Post
    There was an interview this morning on Radio 4 with Tom Tugendhat MP where he was allowed to make ridiculous claims about Putin without being challenged. He said Putin had hundreds of billions of dollars invested abroad – i.e. he is several times richer than Bezos, Gates,etc. He has used nerve agents in the Russian Federation. He has been murdering "activists and journalists" for 20 years. The interviewer after listening to these absurd claims then said shouldn't we be doing more to get this information to the Russian people. There is no objective journalism at the BBC. It is non-stop propaganda.

    Tom Tugendhat was only elected in 2015 and now he is already the Chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee. It is frightening that someone who can make irrational comments like the above is now being seen as a future Conservative leader.

    The "Putin is the richest man in the world" story was put about by Bill Browder. The book about him in the following link will tell you all you need to know about the Browder. It also gives a great insight into how so much money was stolen from Russia under Yeltsin.

    https://dxczjjuegupb.cloudfront.net/...yout_6x9-1.pdf

    This is a bit about Alex Krainer, the author of the above book, who is a hedge fund manager. Browder is so powerful that he blocks any article that shows his true colours – he is very dangerous – so these links might disappear soon.

    https://thesaker.is/cooperative-auth...-by-the-saker/

    This is a very good article by a barrister about Litvinenko.

    https://off-guardian.org/2018/03/17/...itish-justice/

    Those of us on here who are still have working brains know that the chemical attacks in Syria were false flag operations. I think the people behind the Salisbury incident have screwed up and we will get to the truth. There were no unbiased observers in Syria to check the facts but there are now too many people asking questions about Salisbury for the truth to remain hidden. I think when the truth comes out it will bring down this government.
    Think you might be in the minority in these false flags and Russia your going tell us next someone else , annexed Crimea ,and they are not Russia troops and weapons in Syria , and they have never produced this chemical agents and they dont lock up dissidents for protesting its someone else ,Litvinenko was a silly slip up , 14 Russians seemed to have past away due to the weather , the LGBT community have complete freedom ,Pussy Riot never really went to jail , and there is no controls to opposition parties , and no one did go to the moon .

  15. #15

    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Think you might be in the minority in these false flags and Russia your going tell us next someone else , annexed Crimea ,and they are not Russia troops and weapons in Syria , and they have never produced this chemical agents and they dont lock up dissidents for protesting its someone else ,Litvinenko was a silly slip up , 14 Russians seemed to have past away due to the weather , the LGBT community have complete freedom ,Pussy Riot never really went to jail , and there is no controls to opposition parties , and no one did go to the moon .
    That brain dump says more about your mental condition than the events in Salisbury. Have you ever heard of full stops?

  16. #16

    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    We seem to be building to an event that may or may not lead to a huge conflict. Yet another chemical attack on a civilian area in Syria that's pinned on Assad is the likeliest catalyst. Last year the Yanks fired scores of Tomahawk missiles from ships that hit a Syrian airbase in retaliation for a chemical attack, and using the same playbook it may not be the US who attacks first because French president Macron said last month his forces would be deployed to punish Assad following a new outrage. If and when it happens all will depend on whether Syria or Russia finally retaliate to acts of war.

  17. #17

    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    We seem to be building to an event that may or may not lead to a huge conflict. Yet another chemical attack on a civilian area in Syria that's pinned on Assad is the likeliest catalyst. Last year the Yanks fired scores of Tomahawk missiles from ships that hit a Syrian airbase in retaliation for a chemical attack, and using the same playbook it may not be the US who attacks first because French president Macron said last month his forces would be deployed to punish Assad following a new outrage. If and when it happens all will depend on whether Syria or Russia finally retaliate to acts of war.
    What a mess and it's really difficult to totally understand what's going on in Syria , it's almost like WW3 has broken out as a covert proxy war, in a piece of land no body really cared about .

    The number of countries operating within the conflict is crazy , I reckon we have USA , Russia , Iran, Turkey, UK , Assads Syria , Iraq , Kurds , Syrian opposition , plus those nasties who hated everyone, who cannot be named ,as they are not a country or a state, although they think they are , must be murder ordering a Dominoes Pizza late at night .

  18. #18

    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    The Russian Ministry of Defence said today they believe a false flag chemical attack in Syria is imminent. It says it'll be used as a pretext for the US to attack Syria again.

    US training Syria militants for false flag chemical attack as basis for airstrikes – Russian MoD - https://www.rt.com/news/421589-us-pr...ns-airstrikes/

  19. #19

    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    The Russian Ministry of Defence said today they believe a false flag chemical attack in Syria is imminent. It says it'll be used as a pretext for the US to attack Syria again.

    US training Syria militants for false flag chemical attack as basis for airstrikes – Russian MoD - https://www.rt.com/news/421589-us-pr...ns-airstrikes/
    And do you believe the Russian Ministry of Defence?

  20. #20

    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    The Russian Ministry of Defence said today they believe a false flag chemical attack in Syria is imminent. It says it'll be used as a pretext for the US to attack Syria again.

    US training Syria militants for false flag chemical attack as basis for airstrikes – Russian MoD - https://www.rt.com/news/421589-us-pr...ns-airstrikes/
    You said the same a few weeks ago. After that you disappeared from the site for a few days. I suppose you retreated to your Cowbridge bunker/torture chamber. This time I think you are right. The Americans will start bombing Assad in the next few weeks.

    Craig Murray has made a good point about the phrase “of a type developed by Russia” :

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archi...ge-3/#comments

  21. #21

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    I'd believe it over May all day long.

    It's on record now where they say the attacks are to be staged. Hopefully they'll have to abandon those plans now.

  22. #22

    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    I'd believe it over May all day long.

    It's on record now where they say the attacks are to be staged. Hopefully they'll have to abandon those plans now.
    So if it happens they were right and if it doesn't they stopped them happening. That's the kind of Defence Ministry I want !

  23. #23

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    I didn't imagine it. I like to read all the papers when I go to my club and last week I read a letter in The Times from a consultant at Salisbury hospital that said no one had been brought into the hospital with nerve agent poisoning. "Wow", I thought. But there was absolutely no media reaction to the letter. I thought I must have misread it, but the online The Times is behind a paywall and I couldn't check it again. Now on another site someone has quoted the letter and asked the same question - why is this being ignored? This is what the consultant Dr Stephen Davies wrote in a letter to The Times on the 16th :

    "... may I clarify that no patients have experienced symptoms of nerve agent poisoning in Salisbury and there have only ever been three patients with significant poisoning".

  24. #24

    Re: Bloody fuss about this Russian poisoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by David Vincent View Post
    I didn't imagine it. I like to read all the papers when I go to my club and last week I read a letter in The Times from a consultant at Salisbury hospital that said no one had been brought into the hospital with nerve agent poisoning.
    Sir, Further to your report (“Poison exposure leaves almost 40 needing treatment”, Mar 14), may I clarify that no patients have experienced symptoms of nerve agent poisoning in Salisbury and there have only ever been three patients with significant poisoning. Several people have attended the emergency department concerned that they may have been exposed. None has had symptoms of poisoning and none has needed treatment. Any blood tests performed have shown no abnormality. No member of the public has been contaminated by the agent involved.
    Stephen Davies
    Consultant in emergency medicine, Salisbury NHS Foundation Trust


    LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
    March 16 2018, 12:01am, The Times
    British retaliation against Russia’s actions

  25. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Sir, Further to your report (“Poison exposure leaves almost 40 needing treatment”, Mar 14), may I clarify that no patients have experienced symptoms of nerve agent poisoning in Salisbury and there have only ever been three patients with significant poisoning. Several people have attended the emergency department concerned that they may have been exposed. None has had symptoms of poisoning and none has needed treatment. Any blood tests performed have shown no abnormality. No member of the public has been contaminated by the agent involved.
    Stephen Davies
    Consultant in emergency medicine, Salisbury NHS Foundation Trust


    LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
    March 16 2018, 12:01am, The Times
    British retaliation against Russia’s actions
    Thanks for that Wales-Bales. I think that letter will be very important in the coming days.

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